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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 10:30 am
(October 11, 2016 at 10:24 am)Faith No More Wrote: No, fuck this hyper-PC bullshit. There's a reason that freedom of speech is in the first fucking amendment. We've gone way overboard with policing what people say, and all we're doing is forcing each other to cater people's insecurities. These days it's not even good enough to avoid saying something bigoted. If someone else even perceives it to be bigoted, regardless of whether it is or not, you'll be attacked and forced to apologize. Ask Giuliana Rancic(Google it).
Sure, people like to jump on the anti-SJW bandwagon and use it to justify bigotry, but that doesn't take away from the fact that many people on the left have taken a totalitarian approach to regulating speech. It's part of why I feel the need to qualify telling people I'm a liberal with "not that kind of liberal." It reminds me of certain students freaking out at a university because someone wrote a pro-Trump sentence in chalk on the sidewalk and demanding the administration do something about it. Sure, Trump is a total douchebag, but I thought we had freedom of speech in this country?
I also find all of the energy being spent on policing speech totally offensive. There are little kids being bombed in Syria, but people are getting up in arms over others using the wrong terminology. Talk about fucked up priorities.
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All things in balance and moderation. Freedom of speech is crucial to a democracy, trying to outlaw ideas only breeds underground movements springing up in dark corners of the internet etc. However, there have to be limits. However those limits must not undercut the concept of freedom of speech itself.
How do we find the balance that works best for everyone? Fucked if I know. But I imagine sitting down and talking it through sensibly has a part to play in it.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 10:45 am
No one is actually "policing" what people say - you can say whatever you want. Just understand you might be called out for being a prick.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:03 am
Wait, Wooters said that Piss Christ was tied to SJWs?
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
No
Piss Christ is one of the best examples of anti-SJW art, which was attacked by Christian SJWs. You got that backward.
So boo hoo hoo to you.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:09 am
(October 11, 2016 at 11:03 am)Jesster Wrote: Wait, Wooters said that Piss Christ was tied to SJWs?
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
No
Piss Christ is one of the best examples of anti-SJW art, which was attacked by Christian SJWs. You got that backward.
So boo hoo hoo to you.
Now I need to google this.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:14 am
(October 11, 2016 at 10:45 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: No one is actually "policing" what people say - you can say whatever you want. Just understand you might be called out for being a prick.
I don't know if you have been following the recent Swinborne/SCP controversy. It seems to be off the AF radar. The self-righteous condemnation goes well beyond "being called a prick". I don't expect AF members to have much sympathy for Swinborne, but he has clearly been treated poorly. The moral-preening of his accusers, to me, highlights an unwillingness to expose the intellectual poverty of their "enlightened" positions. In cases such as these when someone "calls someone out", he or she or zhe or xyr starts with the presumption that his, hers, or zir or xyr opinion is so obviously right that it requires no defense.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:20 am
(October 11, 2016 at 11:03 am)Jesster Wrote: Piss Christ is one of the best examples of anti-SJW art, which was attacked by Christian SJWs. You got that backward...So boo hoo hoo to you.
My point is that people cannot have it both ways. There is a middle ground. In the 80' and 90's the Christian right over-reached and were correctly labeled as censorious puritans by the Left. Now the Left is overreaching and being rightly labeled as censorious puritans.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2016 at 11:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Christian bigots -always- want the privilege of voicing their christian bigotry without being outed as christian bigots. I'm sure that's great, for them, if they can get it...... but you're right...I don't give a shit Chad.
No one censored said christian bigot... he's under fire for the contents of a keynote address he delivered.....and I'm sure he'll find a bigoted audience who will invite him to deliver the same spiel again......
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2016 at 11:28 am by Jesster.)
(October 11, 2016 at 11:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (October 11, 2016 at 11:03 am)Jesster Wrote: Piss Christ is one of the best examples of anti-SJW art, which was attacked by Christian SJWs. You got that backward...So boo hoo hoo to you.
My point is that people cannot have it both ways. There is a middle ground. In the 80' and 90's the Christian right over-reached and were correctly labeled as censorious puritans by the Left. Now the Left is overreaching and being rightly labeled as censorious puritans.
And you are trying to make it sound like "the left" is a synonym for "SJW" today. It's not. Fuck dude. I can be a leftist transsexual and not be a SJW. In fact, I'm fine with a good number of things being said in this thread. I'll even say that "the right" was not a synonym for "SJW" back then. It's fringe groups.
Your whining was the first thing that got me to respond to this thread with laughter. Congratulations for being so offended.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:29 am
(October 11, 2016 at 10:27 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: Oh look, another person following sensationalist news stories designed to give you a warped perspective of liberals. There's no totalitarian progressive regime.
Oh look, another person that thinks just saying "You're wrong" is a valid debate tactic.
Well, "neener, neener" to you too.
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RE: Being anti social justice warrior is a catalyst for bullying behavior
October 11, 2016 at 11:32 am
(October 11, 2016 at 11:29 am)Faith No More Wrote: (October 11, 2016 at 10:27 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: Oh look, another person following sensationalist news stories designed to give you a warped perspective of liberals. There's no totalitarian progressive regime.
Oh look, another person that thinks just saying "You're wrong" is a valid debate tactic.
Well, "neener, neener" to you too. I'm sorry, how about, you're not not wrong.
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