How the fuck is there a statute of limitations for rape in New York?

[FatAndFaithless]

I envy those who have never met you, Drich.

[The Grand Nudger]

Nice segue from rape into a fatherless society.  What's next?  It;s obvious that all of this rape brouhahah is an effect of moving away from god.  In biblical times, we'd just have the rapist pay the father a few shekels for destruction of property and send them down to the clerk to get hitched. Problem solved, amiright.

[Drich]

Here's a thought...

IF it takes a woman or man waits 5 years to report a rape... it wasn't.

If someone drills you in the can and you seriously did not want to be drilled in the can, then why wait over 5 years to report it?

It is far more likely that alleged 'victim' seeks or see to further benefit from said can drilling by changing their consent status. After all how can one prove consent? Now how can one prove consent after such a long time? oh, that's right they don't say anything for more than 5 years.

So how does NY have a statute of limitations on rape? Because at one time the state law makers had a modicum of common sense.

Um...wow.  There are many...MANY reasons women don't report assaults.  Shame.  Embarrassment.   Fear of not being believed.  Fear of being BLAMED.  Fear of the rape exam, which is just as painful and degrading as the assault its self.  Fear of their attackers.  Fear for their LIVES if their attacker has threatened them not to tell, or threatened their families.  Fear that they will subject themselves to a lengthy, mortifying trial only to have their attacker get a slap on the wrist.  Fear of bullying/ridicule/scorn by the community, especially if the accused is well liked/well known.  The sick feeling of having to verbalize what was done to you over and over, which amounts to being violated all over again. And of course, all these reasons are magnified when the victim is a very young person.  The fact that you would even suggest such nonsense demonstrates that you either don't fully understand the nature of the crime of rape, or you don't take it seriously.


Do you think all 50 something of Bill Cosby's accusers are lying?  You are disgusting dude, Drippy.  But at least your consistently disgusting on all matters regarding empathy and the human condition.  Why did you have to shit all over this thread with your nastiness?  Go back into your hole, will ya?

Do you think all 50 are telling the truth?

Do you think no one in that group was trading sex for an opportunity at stardom? Do you think no one in that group were trying to use their looks and sex to create a career for themselves, and got nothing but a story in return?

I am sure cosby crossed the line somewhere, not the point. The point is the reason for the statue of limitation is found with cosby's case. The reason being you can not prove intent on either party's side.

Time is the ONLY, not the best, but only measure of intent.

Yes people like nymphoria and K1 will fall through the cracks, but again in the vast majority of cases time will flush out the truth behind a person's intent.

[LadyForCamus]

You are the lowest form of low.

why because I approach you without pity and a ounce of discernment? That I have the audacity to dare look at the situation rather than the individual? Is this not a discussion? If one of your buddies gives you a cookie cutter answer, do you really need everyone to pat you on the bottom and tell you everything is going to be ok? Have you shut yourself down to looking at anything anyone has to say that is not nurturing???

This is what happens when a nation grows up without Fathers. Use to be a balance was struck with a child between the nurture a mother gave, and the walk it off/let's do the next logical thing a true father gave.

Now if we are not 100% nurture all you can see is a monster.

Look as I said. If you want to be a victim the rest of your life then simply continue down the path your on. Seek consul only from those who pity you and offer condolences. Don't ever seek to move past what happen only seek to forget it till someone mentions the word rape in a way you don't want to hear it and then force yourself to relive it.

See to me, someone who has endured and work with people who had much much worse happen to them over a much longer period of time. Those of you who force people to only be victims are the true monsters. Because it is possible to detach from an incident like this and not have it define who you are. It can become just another event in your life. adding to your character not controlling it.

But hey what do I know.. just continue to do the easy what 'feels' or seems right/less pain avenue...

I don't think anyone here was fishing for pity or "victim-nurturing", or whatever, Drich. We were merely discussing how the trauma sexual assault differs from other physical traumas, and the very real emotional/psychological reasons women (and men, and children) have for being afraid to come forward because of the nature of that particular category of trauma. No one is encouraging anyone to remain a victim. No one was even implying it's a "good idea" to stay silent. No one was insinuating they let their rape define who they are. We were simply explaining to you how and why your laughably ridiculous assertion: "if a woman doesn't report it, it didn't happen," is demonstrably false.

But...you'll jump at any opportunity to demean someone from your self-appointed high horse. Keep blindly swinging that iron fist around buddy. We're all used to it by now.

[Drich]

In fact, I'll go a step further and say it's the callous victim-blaming attitude from YOU, and people like you who are at the root of women's pause about reporting their rapes.  You're part of the problem, and you don't even see it.  So fuck you.

I did not blame the victim. I simply explained why there is a time limit to rape in some states.

You all created the narrative of victim blaming..

You may not like how I did not handle the subject with kit gloves but at the same time never once blamed her for anything.

I am simply looking at the facts locally providing an alternative view or alternate advise to the pity you all are heaping on. Long term this does more damage even if it makes YOU feel better.

Look at how she has now forced herself to relive the whole event and shut down. Does this not identify as a big problem? Doesn't this not show you that her dealings with this event is at best nothing more than a bandaide? So then how are you not the monster for stacking pity and platitudes (which is how she seeming has dealt with this in the past per her reaction to not being handeled with kit gloves?) not make you all the immoral monsters? You are only dragging out the suffering.

In comparison look at all the brutal stuff that has been said to me when I share a moment from my personal life. the things that have been said about my wife/my family. Acknowledge it or not I am trying to help. In contrast, What was said to me by a member here was meant to obliterate my ego, destroy or plant desention in my relationship with my wife. and troll me into a rage. what has my reaction been in comparison? I still answer answer that person's post without pause, despite the hurtful things... Quite honestly if he needed help I would invit him into my home.

My instance was a great source of personal pain and at the time it was all going down his words would have probably ended my marriage, because at that point the doubt would have probably consumed me. But at the point where I felt secure enough to share my personal story (like nymphoria did) I was ready to have it and my emotions tested. How ever nymphoria was not.

Which again points to the contrast in the healing process we have adopted. If I covered my deep wound in pity offered by 'friends' then if one of you picked at it, the wound would start bleeding again. Which is why I offered nymphoria anything but pity. I offered the same path that many of the older generation had to tread down, the same path I went down many times myself. Why? because I needed to be healed not coddled, or slowly bled to death by a bad memory.

[Drich]

I'm actually going to Orlando soon, and it's making me vividly fantasize about tracking Drich down and kicking him square in the nuts.

I can PM you my address if you like

[The Grand Nudger]

I did not blame the victim. I simply explained why there is a time limit to rape in some states.

LOL, you did no such thing.  You babbled for a sentence or two as pretext and then launched off into one of your usual screeds.  If you want to know why we have sols, then maybe you should take some notes, lol.

Time is no more a measure of consent than dna.  This is so ridiculous that it isn;t even wrong, it fails to rise to the bar of a mistake or misconception.  It's just an excuse for your unrelated asshattery...and the comments above are more of the same. What's the point of playing the sympathy card now, in any case? Your pain, hurtful comments made to you and about you? Who gives a shit, right? To quote a wise man;

[Drich]

Seriously??

You by your own word don't seek justice for yourself or anyone else, yet I'm the bad guy for pointing out the truth?

That you can't prove intent the day after, let alone 5 years after other than to say, why has it taken so long? unless one party is seeking to defame another... Or do you simply not understand that this happens?

Don't pretend you have any interest whatsoever in justice. Or people, for that matter.

You live in a fantasy world of make-believe where every human's a deplorable, disgustingly wicked fallen angel, who's being tested by your personal god. You have no real or true concern for human suffering, because no one's actually human to you. Unless it's a matter of killing the unborn, (much-needed vessels for unclean spirits with the potential of being 'shown the way', and thereby increasing the multitude of your Father's eternal army), inconveniencing other believers, OR fucking with you personally, you'll shrug your shoulders and casually dismiss it as the consequences of sinful, wicked beings living in a sinful, wicked world, every single time. Your particularly "unique" twist on Christian faith has rendered you incapable of feeling empathy, or having a genuine interest in justice. They're foreign concepts to you, now.

Your input is useless at best, and harmful at worst when it comes addressing matters of pain and suffering, for those very reasons. 

So, you should shut up about it.
Focus on your fairy tales, instead.

-Or
Maybe, just maybe... I've lived through enough shit to know pity/your way does not work... God aside, we live in a culture of victims, and for most anymore that is all people want to be. And if by God's grace you live through a real event that genuinely made you a victim, it like you won life's get out of responsibility card.

So again, if that is what you want fine... Every other moron on this website will help you with that... But here now (enough time has passed for proper grieving) If that person is willing to allow me to help her bury her dead I will try and do that.

[LadyForCamus]

In fact, I'll go a step further and say it's the callous victim-blaming attitude from YOU, and people like you who are at the root of women's pause about reporting their rapes.  You're part of the problem, and you don't even see it.  So fuck you.

I did not blame the victim. I simply explained why there is a time limit to rape in some states.

You all created the narrative of victim blaming..

You may not like how I did not handle the subject with kit gloves but at the same time never once blamed her for anything.

I am simply looking at the facts locally providing an alternative view or alternate advise to the pity you all are heaping on. Long term this does more damage even if it makes YOU feel better.

Look at how she has now forced herself to relive the whole event and shut down. Does this not identify as a big problem? Doesn't this not show you that her dealings with this event is at best nothing more than a bandaide? So then how are you not the monster for stacking pity and platitudes (which is how she seeming has dealt with this in the past per her reaction to not being handeled with kit gloves?) not make you all the immoral monsters? You are only dragging out the suffering.

In comparison look at all the brutal stuff that has been said to me when I share a moment from my personal life. the things that have been said about my wife/my family. Acknowledge it or not I am trying to help. In contrast, What was said to me by a member here was meant to obliterate my ego, destroy or plant desention in my relationship with my wife. and troll me into a rage. what has my reaction been in comparison? I still answer answer that person's post without pause, despite the hurtful things... Quite honestly if he needed help I would invit him into my home.

My instance was a great source of personal pain and at the time it was all going down his words would have probably ended my marriage, because at that point the doubt would have probably consumed me. But at the point where I felt secure enough to share my personal story (like nymphoria did) I was ready to have it and my emotions tested. How ever nymphoria was not.

Which again points to the contrast in the healing process we have adopted. If I covered my deep wound in pity offered by 'friends' then if one of you picked at it, the wound would start bleeding again. Which is why I offered nymphoria anything but pity. I offered the same path that many of the older generation had to tread down, the same path I went down many times myself. Why? because I needed to be healed not coddled, or slowly bled to death by a bad memory.

No, no. Let's not try to wiggle away from your nasty assertion here. You could have come into the discussion advocating for one of two general positions:

"Sexual assault victims should either -

1. Come forward and report their assault as soon as possible, even in the face of understandable fear, pain, and shame. It may be difficult, but it's the best thing for their healing process, and it increases the likelihood that the rapist will be prevented from committing more crimes.

OR

2. Victims should do whatever they feel is best for their healing, even if that means keeping their trauma to themselves, and never coming forward."

That would be a perfectly fine topic of discussion, and you could provide evidence for which ever stance you take on the issue. But no. That's NOT what you did, is it? You barged in and said:

"If you didn't report your rape, then you're lying!"

You single-handedly invalidated the assaults of hundreds of thousands of victims all over the country, including the assault of a member on this forum who has bravely opened up about her trauma. You called Nymph a liar, and then you acted baffled as to why she got upset with you. THEN you deflected her anger back onto HER, accusing her of playing the victim-role, instead of taking responsibility for your words.

Your lack of self awareness is simply terrifying, dude.

[Drich]

Here's a thought...

IF it takes a woman or man waits 5 years to report a rape... it wasn't.

If someone drills you in the can and you seriously did not want to be drilled in the can, then why wait over 5 years to report it?

It is far more likely that alleged 'victim' seeks or see to further benefit from said can drilling by changing their consent status. After all how can one prove consent? Now how can one prove consent after such a long time? oh, that's right they don't say anything for more than 5 years.

So how does NY have a statute of limitations on rape? Because at one time the state law makers had a modicum of common sense.

This is why I always tell myself not to enter these fucken threads.

I don't have enough words to express how disgusting you are. It's because of people like you that so many victims hide forever. You have no idea. You have no fucken idea. I'm so glad I don't know you in real life. I feel sick to my stomach and let me tell you... you are one sick, heartless, ignorant man. Even if your god was real, if that is what his little minions are like, might as well be worshiping a piece of shit. Fuck you.

...No, i have a pretty good idea...

Little bit..

I know you can not prove or disprove intent. It will only ever be a he said she said thing.

And I am full aware why people dont report rape.

Aside from all the surface B/S you mentioned. Deep down the root can be found in the fear of the loss of total control. to be own/dominated that is at the core of a real rape. (As apposed to I didn't get what I wanted or maybe I don't like this guy/regret what i did) it is being forced into a sense of helplessness. But given time and reminded of the responsibility one has to get a person off the street so he does not do it to someone else along with a determination not to be a victim will see most people through to a place where they can prosecute, or evaluate a situation and offer forgiveness.