How the fuck is there a statute of limitations for rape in New York?

[Mermaid]

I don't think you're a sociopath. I think you have a very unique type of personality. I think you're very thick skinned and cold headed. I think you have an air of arrogance. I think you are extremely blunt and to the point. I think you are not good with people skills. I think you don't have a good sense of tact and sensitivity when handling others. 

...Not because you're a bad person, but because, as I said, you have a unique type of personality, thick skin, and you like to be talked to in a way that is blunt and to the point. So you talk to others that way. And you don't realize (or perhaps don't care) that most people are not the same way as you, and therefore don't respond well to the way you talk to them.  

When posting here, why not try to connect with people on a more human level and talk to them in a way that is conducive to a good discussion? And be humble. If you're trying to reach people here and share a message with them and have productive discussions with them, I think you'll be much more successful if you do that.

I did it both ways.. I by profession am a salesman. (among other things) I can sell people on just about anything. But here's the thing. I like Christ am not here to sell anyone on anything. I am here to provide the truth. (think rich young ruler, think zacheus, or the guy he told let the dead bury the dead. Think of the whip he fashioned to chase the money changers out of the temple. Think of all the times he called his well meaning disciples foolish..) There is a min mandated requirement that Christ demands, before the flood gates of grace and mercy were opened.

I tried selling people, and it worked out very well if you count the numbers of followers I had. But my efforts much like the modern church turned out to be little more than a social group with a religious theme. No life changing anything happened. people gather together and were nice to one another till they weren't and they handled each other no different than anyone else. This sickened me, as at this point your way, was the only way i knew to reach out to people, and yet I could not effect any real change with nearly 100+ people to work with.

Then i prayed for God to take eveything back if he needed and show me how to effect change even if on just one life. Overtime when I opened my bible, I noticed the Jesus we were taught in sunday school, was not the Jesus of scripture. Jesus was hard and cold towards those who's hearts were hard toward God or those just going through religious motions he was sharp tongued and demanded that people use what God gave them. Paul's letters were no different, Look at how he even rebukes the members of the church. Look how paul rebuked peter for teaching circumcision...
But when they repented grace and mercy abound.

Now then with this in mind why should i compromise anything? There has been a line drawn in the sand by God and is not taking people fooled across the line. We have see said line, acknowledge and cross it on his terms. Which this generation/culture has made evil via their own personal version of morality.

I am not allowed to point to sin and demand anyone to repent, so I focus on the broken/fallacious logic that is used to defend their beliefs. I literally tailor/use the same size "hammer" on them as they use on me. If it is scaled back to a conversation then I do the same. How ever if it is escalated, well I can do that too. This subject to me is no different than any other. If a person has an emotional tie to a subject I will never force it to discussion. However if you are willing to use tragedy as a talking point then it is you who has subjected yourself to scrutiny.

This place gives no quarter and none is expected from me. that is why I too have subjects I am reserved in discussing. But at the same time I do show compassion and respect in what I say. I do think out my messages and believe it or not tone them down, like in this case.

I identified the nym may not be ready for recovery and if she wasn't then she should allowed to be pitted if that is what she wanted but I also warned this is not going to help long term. I pointed out that if she is not wanting to have to relive the whole episode over and over again, then she will need some sort of actual help and she will need to acknowledge that gathering pity and pressing it all back down is not fixing anything, that it is nothing more than a band aide.

Now if you packed that with pity/over compassionate sell, then at the end of the day the pity remains and the need to get help goes away because if the person is just seeking pity to fashion another band aide then she will be feeling better at that point. Which again does more long term harm than good.

True compassion may have you take boot to ass to push someone in a direction they may not want to go at first, but long term they themselves will see they are in a far better place.

True compassion starts with not being a patronizing dickbag to people. What you claim is the "truth" is not everyone's truth.

[Iroscato]

You dare even speak of 'true compassion', after everything you've said and done. You are beyond parody and contempt.

[Drich]

Whoa... where did I say any of that?

Or is that all that you can see?

I need a citation a literal untouched quote, and a post number most of my first thoughts were from page 3 forward.

Show me where I called anyone a liar or said any of the things you claimed i said or simply admit you are having to change the narritive inorder for your straw man witch hunt to work.

Um...lol.  Bold mine:

Here's a thought...

IF it takes a woman or man waits 5 years to report a rape... it wasn't.

If someone drills you in the can and you seriously did not want to be drilled in the can, then why wait over 5 years to report it?

It is far more likely that alleged 'victim' seeks to further benefit from said can drilling by changing their consent status.. After all how can one prove consent? Now how can one prove consent after such a long time? oh, that's right they don't say anything for more than 5 years.

Is it a selective memory you have, or do you genuinely just forget what you say amidst the endless text walls?  

Failure to report a crime committed does not "change the consent status", whatever you mean by that, lol.  A person may change their consent status.  Time, however, does not.  If someone stole my car...then they stole my fucking car, regardless of whether or not I report it to anyone.

But you didn't stop being stupid there.  To make it worse, you responded with "jerk-off" emojis when you were provided with legitimate, substantive, psychological reasons sexual assault victims may delay coming forward.   You made a factually incorrect statement, and when you were corrected the best rebuttal you could come up with was a vulgar emoji.  Thanks for learnin' us all the truth yet again, Drippy!  Consider us SCHOOLED!   [emoji849]

BTW- I didn't read your sociopolitical babble about Hilary.  I'm not interested in catering to your desire to push contrived agendas around here.  

Apparently you do not understand the legal definition of the word. Rape is: unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will.

What makes it unlawful, is the report of the act with in the SoL. Now if what would normally be considered to be a rape is reported outside the SoL then it ceased to be an unlawful act.

That is what I was speaking to. Read my quote again. The reason for the Sol is that it far more likely that an alleged victim changed the rape status after 5 years...

[Shell B]

Actually, Drich, something being outside of the statute of limitations does not negate its illegality. It simply ceases to be enforceable . . . to some degree. You're just kind of making that up. Also, the reason for the statute of limitations is that it gets harder to prove and is thus a drain on resources. It has nothing to do with the likelihood that a woman changed "rape status" after five years. If she was raped five years ago, it's still rape. If she wasn't raped five years ago, odds are she's not going to stir the pot five years down the line. It's a rare case indeed where someone pretends to be raped years after the fact. Why wouldn't she just claim she was raped two weeks ago?

[Whateverist]

Yeah, Drich usually comes up a few neurons short of a good idea.

[Kingpin]

Actually, Drich, something being outside of the statute of limitations does not negate its illegality. It simply ceases to be enforceable . . . to some degree. You're just kind of making that up. Also, the reason for the statute of limitations is that it gets harder to prove and is thus a drain on resources. It has nothing to do with the likelihood that a woman changed "rape status" after five years. If she was raped five years ago, it's still rape. If she wasn't raped five years ago, odds are she's not going to stir the pot five years down the line. It's a rare case indeed where someone pretends to be raped years after the fact. Why wouldn't she just claim she was raped two weeks ago?

Precisely Shell B.  You hit the nail on the head.  Rape is still rape regardless of length of time that has passed.  SoL only means the law enforcement can no longer legally do anything about it.  

Drich you cannot say that prior to the five years it was defined as rape and one day after the five years it merely becomes consensual legal sex.  That's simply false.  It was still a crime, just one that can not be tried.  

As far as your "tough love" diatribe back there, I'm not opposed to tough love as it has its time and place but you seem to quickly forget the times Jesus humbles himself as a servant to others and shows true compassion.  How about the woman in adultery that Jesus did not condemn while the priests were ready to stone her?  Did he use tough love there?  

How about the apostle Paul in 1 Cor 9:22: "I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I may save some".  He's saying that he adapts to all people to relate to them on levels they understand.  We cannot be one-dimensional in our approach to discussions as what may help some will not help all.  We need to assess, adapt and respond accordingly.  Be humble, loving and raise others up and not admonish them.  We are all the same and all deserving of the same respect, regardless of our background, ethnicity, beliefs, etc.

[Catholic_Lady]

Drich, I am sorry, but making jerk off motion emoji's to someone who has been raped when she listed all the reasons why a woman may not report rape, was just plain wrong. There's just no way to justify that. Neither as a Christian nor as anything else.

[Catholic_Lady]

You dare even speak of 'true compassion', after everything you've said and done. You are beyond parody and contempt.

Drich, that's why you get responses like these^

[Mermaid]

That is what I was speaking to. Read my quote again. The reason for the Sol is that it far more likely that an alleged victim changed the rape status after 5 years...

You are an incredible piece of shit.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Apparently you do not understand the legal definition of the word. Rape is: unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will.

What makes it unlawful, is the report of the act with in the SoL. Now if what would normally be considered to be a rape is reported  outside the SoL then it ceased to be an unlawful act.

That is what I was speaking to. Read my quote again. The reason for the Sol is that it far more likely that an alleged victim changed the rape status after 5 years...

Uninformed as well as heartless. What makes it illegal is not the reporting date, but the forcible natire of the violation.

Read more, post less, asshole.