How the fuck is there a statute of limitations for rape in New York?

[Drich]

Rough sex is not forced sex.  Fail, again.  The rough sex defense -invokes- consent.

No, the sol does -not- prevent arrest, or the need for a trial - as has already been explained.  Choose to defend yourself in court, 20 years after an offense with a 2 year sol, and you will be arrested and brought to trial.  You -can- be arrested and brought to trail 20 years after an offense with a 2 year sol even if you -don't- choose to defend yourself, because sol time is not linear time.  These are not exceptions, this is the rule.  

I admire stubborn people, I really do.  You're still just as wrong as you were before.  Next?

read the brief sport.

The definition is the same, they are playing a word game to lessen the impact of the harshness of the act.

Maybe also try dates.. when ever I get backed up too much i eat some dates for a few days and man watch out when they hit.. you ever been to dairy queen when they clean out the soft serve machines that still have product in them. the just prop open the handel and let it all dump out in a bucket.. just one big long stream of 'soft serve.' Maybe that will help you pass your brick.

[Shell B]

My Argument has nothing to do with the specifics of how rape is identified legally, BECAUSE No Matter The Defination It Can Be Summed Up As A Criminal Act.

Do You Understand? Let me concede your definition. Now plug that definition into my argument. Which means your defination becomes my criminal act..

Still with me?

Now lets look at my definition of criminal act:
Criminal act is an act committed by a person that violates a law and which is punishable by the government. Criminal acts are offenses against the public which are punishable. It can be any act or omission or possession which poses a threat to the public.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/criminal-act/

Ok NOW Remove the Government's ablity to prosecute your legally defined act. Per a SOL.

Then your accusation of Rape ceases to be a criminal act by definition of the term, as it is not prosecutible.

Then Effectively/Legally speaking There is NO Difference between Rape and forced sex. because again there isn't any legal recourse

Now miss smarty pants, If what I am saying is not 110% true then why can't someone accused of rape after the SOL be prosecuted?

Go line by line if you can and correct my logic where it is wrong.

I'm not asking you for the legal definition of rape. I want to see where you can find a definition of rape that says it is only the illegal act. I am not looking for another one of your dodges. I'm not asking for the definition of criminal. Again, link a definition of rape that says rape is only rape if it is illegal and prosecutable. K? Are ya following me?

[Excited Penguin]

What nuance, the nuance of rape?   Don't get pissy with me, you're the one negotiating between force and consent with your little quotation marks, lol. 

If you don't want to be held to your comments, don't share them.

@Drich, still not what special pleading means.  / shrugs

The nuance of the roleplay of rape. I'm not negotiating, I'm pointing out a very disturbing way in which rape could potentially be faked. You will have awesome sex and she'll ask for it, but then if you accidentally kill her cat, or something, you'll have to prove how you didn't actually rape her. Good luck with that.

The only difference between actual rape and its roleplay equivalent, if done right that is, is the person's state of mind and consent, both of which can be used against their partner (and only one of which can be proven) if said person suddenly decides to fuck them over for some other reason. So either never have that kind of sex, not even in jest, and don't drink and fuck, or grab your lucky scepter by the globes and hope for the best.

[LadyForCamus]

The problem with your rebuttal is that we were never discussing the accused when all this nastiness went down, were we?  We were talking about the trauma, and how victims process it.

That trauma is what you objected to so crudely.  I honestly don't believe that you were talking about legal implications for the accused at all, otherwise you wouldn't have alluded to alleged victims having ulterior motives for reporting rapes late after the fact.  You were asserting the motivations of victims.  

I think you know it was a nasty thing to say, even for you, and now you're trying to wiggle out of your implications with legal definitions and semantics.  Of course...this is nothing more than my opinion based on how I've interpreted your posts.

Look at it this way:  If someone steals my car and I don't report it, then perhaps you can argue that that the "crime of car theft" never technically, legally occurred.  But, someone STILL stole my car. I still suffer the consequences of my car having been stolen.

If a man breaks into a woman's house and forcibly, vaginally penetrates her...then...he forcibly, vaginally penetrated her.  It is an intimate, violent action against another human being, and that human being is going to suffer the psychological/emotional consequences of such an assault, regardless of whether or not it is legally recognized as a "crime of rape" in the eyes of the law.  You jerking-off in response to that trauma is the issue here.

But again, in order for actionable response to any alleged crime, one must report it.

If you don't then as I said it is like it never happened.

My Emoji was meant to illecite a negative response. Why? because if you took any or all of those excuses to any cop 5 years after the fact, I'm sure you'd get a Catholic Lady's response to your report, but in the end what the emoji is doing is all your going to get in the way of 'justice.'

Now ask yourself what is better if you are 4 years and 360 days in from being raped yourself... Being mad at me for telling you that your rights/legal recourse you had are about to be flushed in a way that makes you uncomfortable.. Or would it be better if i just took my turn in line to offer you pity so that you could continue being a silent victim and find out 10 years down the line when you finally feel ready to do or say something that my emoji truly represents what can be done for you.

Could I have done it more tactfully?

Yes..

You didn't verbalize ANY of that.  Were we expected to just infer all your thoughts above from one emoji repeated 5 or so times?  That's rather lazy, especially for you. Which is why I question if you are being honest about what you actually meant at the time you posted it.

[The Grand Nudger]

Rough sex is not forced sex.  Fail, again.  The rough sex defense -invokes- consent.

No, the sol does -not- prevent arrest, or the need for a trial - as has already been explained.  Choose to defend yourself in court, 20 years after an offense with a 2 year sol, and you will be arrested and brought to trial.  You -can- be arrested and brought to trail 20 years after an offense with a 2 year sol even if you -don't- choose to defend yourself, because sol time is not linear time.  These are not exceptions, this is the rule.  

I admire stubborn people, I really do.  You're still just as wrong as you were before.  Next?

read the brief sport.

The definition is the same, they are playing a word game to lessen the impact of the harshness of the act.

No, they're not...and the fact that you think the difference between rape and rough sex is a word game exposes you for who and what you are more adequately than I ever could.  Thanks.  

Maybe also try dates.. when ever I get backed up too much i eat some dates for a few days and man watch out when they hit.. you ever been to dairy queen when they clean out the soft serve machines that still have product in them. the just prop open the handel and let it all dump out in a bucket.. just one big long stream of 'soft serve.' Maybe that will help you pass your brick.

Now you're fantasizing about my asshole in a rape thread? You're not my type, I like em smart.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Lay out any facts you think I missed.  What other obnoxious views do you hold?

as above. you wrongly assume all forced sex is not consensual sex and therefore rape.

If it is consensual, force would not be needed. Surely even someone as stupid as you can see that.

Oh, wait.

you wrongfully judged me and those who would find 'forced sex normal' for most of the world as rapists.

Judged? Sure. "Wrongly"? Fuck off. If you like rape that's your business, but don't pretend for a moment that you speak for most of the world or its cultures.

your judgement is based off you own version of right and wrong and because you could not see a legit form of forced sex you assumed it was all wrong.. Hence my usage of the term self righteous when describing you and your failed judgement.

lol, I love it when I force a Christian like you to retreat into moral relativity in order to defend an errant point, when a simple "I misspoke, sorry" -- but humility is not your strong point, now is it?

Is that a big enough 'miss' for ya?

I'm sorry, I asked for facts, not your misguided opinions. Try again, and this time put some effort into fulfilling my request.

[Drich]

I am simply providing a narritive of forced sex Not being an example of rape.

No, you;re not.  Forced sex is rape in those countries as well.  You provided a narrative of -consensual- sex that was different than whatever you think the narrative is here.  Though why you would think that is beyond me.  Chalk it up to cultural and legal ignorance.

The Difference between rape and forced sex is consent.

-again, incoherent by reference to itself.  If consent is the difference, then forced sex is rape.

The asian women who Consent to forced sex EVEN HERE IN THE US, are not being raped even though they may endure a similar physical act. Which is how the law applies.

Incoherent by reference to itself.  No one consents to being forced.  The words are diametrically opposed.  You're imagining that people consent to rough sex...and buddy let me tell you, they do...those girls are my bread and butter.  I get all the sex you fantasize about.  But so what?  

I said that to refute the idea there forced sex is always rape/ There can not be an example of forced sex without it being considered rape.

Because it is, by definition.  You want to argue that rough sex is not rape, and it isn't...so that hardly needs to be argued.  

Go back a few pages and look at all the self righteous condemnation you were just apart of or have you already forgotten?

Your tears sustain me.  At what point, do you think, that reminding me how I called you out for what you are will affect me negatively, or make some non-point you've been arguing against with your own examples?

I'll say it again..you're an ignorant rape apologist....if the lady says no..put your dick back in your pants.  You can take that advice with you alllllll the way back to asia, where it's equally applicable.

Again you are not allowing for a cultural divide when you say all forced sex must be against the will.

Forced sex or rough sex Many would argue is apart of a mating dance some cultures take part in. It can be brutal and physically indistinguishable from a rape, but isn't a rape because both side consent to the roles they play.

Which is what makes consent the key to separate forced sex from rape.

If you don't agree then what allowance/how do you explain the sexual culture that I am explaining?

[KevinM1]

Drich, look up the word 'forced'. We'll wait.

[Excited Penguin]

Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

[LadyForCamus]

Lay out any facts you think I missed.  What other obnoxious views do you hold?

as above. you wrongly assume all forced sex is not consensual sex and therefore rape. you wrongfully judged me and those who would find 'forced sex normal' for most of the world as rapists. your judgement is based off you own version of right and wrong and because you could not see a legit form of forced sex you assumed it was all wrong.. Hence my usage of the term self righteous when describing you and your failed judgement.

Is that a big enough 'miss' for ya?

If the sex was ACTUALLY forced, then it was non-consensual.  If it was consensual role play/rape fantasy/rough sex, then it was NOT ACTUALLY forced.  Why on god's green fucking earth are you making this SO difficult?!