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RE: The end of the world
May 31, 2011 at 12:50 pm
(May 29, 2011 at 12:16 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (May 26, 2011 at 9:34 am)Manowar Wrote: IMO Harold Camping is a Terrorist, period,
Sorry, but I think this is absurd. He's either a totally deluded religious nut, or possibly a religious con artist, but I fail to see how he could be considered a terrorist, unless perhaps he's trying to strike terror into people by claiming the end of the world is going to happen on a particular date. But I'm sure that's totally ineffective unless you actually believe in what he says.
Thta's exactly what i mean, he strikes terror into people who are so hard core believers that some jump out of windows or
cut their kids throats with a box cutters. He controls those type of people by scaring them to death. For believers that are not that crazy he is just a deluded old man and non-believers Camping is a cartoon character.
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RE: The end of the world
May 31, 2011 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2011 at 2:34 pm by Doubting Thomas.)
The thing is, though, if they weren't jumping out windows or cutting their own throats with box cutters at what Camping said, then they'd just find a reason in what some other nutjob says. Camping is just giving them the excuse.
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RE: The end of the world
May 31, 2011 at 2:48 pm
The word "terrorist" is horribly overused.
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RE: The end of the world
June 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm
(May 31, 2011 at 2:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The word "terrorist" is horribly overused.
I agree.
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RE: The end of the world
June 4, 2011 at 8:17 am
(May 31, 2011 at 2:32 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The thing is, though, if they weren't jumping out windows or cutting their own throats with box cutters at what Camping said, then they'd just find a reason in what some other nutjob says. Camping is just giving them the excuse.
I think it's an impulse, rather than an excuse. I've heard from the TV that once there were people that sold their houses when an end of the world 'approached'. Those money most surely ended up in the preachers' pocket. Now I agree that those that sell their houses (perhaps being suggested to do this or something) are idiots and feeble minded, but still, they are human beings, and if there is a way to prevent such things from happening, I think it would be a good thing to prevent them. Also, if somebody preaches an end of the world to fill his pocket with money - which is manipulating and deceiving the feeble minded, doing harm to them for his own advantage - then I believe that that preacher does not deserve being left free to enjoy the results of what he did.
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RE: The end of the world
June 4, 2011 at 10:30 am
Well we'll see what all his followers think of him come Oct. 21. I wonder if any more idiots will spend all their money before that date, knowing that Camping didn't give anything back to the ones who did before May 21st?
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RE: The end of the world
June 4, 2011 at 11:16 am
(June 4, 2011 at 10:30 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Well we'll see what all his followers think of him come Oct. 21. I wonder if any more idiots will spend all their money before that date, knowing that Camping didn't give anything back to the ones who did before May 21st?
the great problem is not with a near date (like oct 21). The problem is if one comes after 5 or 10 or more years with a new end of the world date - especially if some great natural disasters happens in that period, or the year would sound interesting (as it was 2000). Anyway, the fact is that if things like this happen rarely, they have a stronger effect than if a new end of the world date was preached every day.
P.S. it is interesting how the end of the world dates are never preached as being after a very long time (i.e. you nowhere hear something like "the end of the world will happen in 2300!")
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RE: The end of the world
June 4, 2011 at 11:50 am
The number 21 is in lots of end time predictions. William Miller predicted the end of the Earth 3/21, camping 5/21, the Mayan 12/21 all different years of course. Something about 21 is very bad, unless your are playing Blackjack then 21 is great
What happened to the forum for about 3 days all i could get is this guy Aerzia Saerules Arktous?
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RE: The end of the world
June 4, 2011 at 9:59 pm
(June 4, 2011 at 11:50 am)Manowar Wrote: What happened to the forum for about 3 days all i could get is this guy Aerzia Saerules Arktous?
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It was Sae's failed attempt to turn us all into her mindslaves.
Nah, it was actually her birthday. The admins changed all our usernames to Aerzia Saerules Arktous on that date.
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RE: The end of the world
June 5, 2011 at 12:03 am
(June 4, 2011 at 11:50 am)Manowar Wrote: The number 21 is in lots of end time predictions. William Miller predicted the end of the Earth 3/21, camping 5/21, the Mayan 12/21 all different years of course. Something about 21 is very bad, unless your are playing Blackjack then 21 is great
I'm not sure why but religions really seem to like the numbers 7 and 3 and numbers that are divisible by 3. The Trinity, 12 disciples, 12 tribes of Judah (actually there's a lot of 12s), Jesus died at 3 pm, thus the witching hour is 3am, deism is the triangle (3 points), Wicca is the rule of three, there's actually far too many to list. Anyway, that makes 21 a real bonus because it incorporates both the desired divisibility factor plus the glorious number 7. The holiest of numbers. *insert eye-roll here*
Even free-thinkers and the like get attributed the value of pi (3.14) because why? maybe they deserve to share in this man-made "existential significance" of the #3.
Beats me. I have no idea why - nor do I care. I think it's just interesting because so many assign numbers important significance where there is none.
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