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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:00 pm
Ah, but many folks who were 'in the choir' too didn't like HIS take on Christianity and thought he was a heretic.
I'm in a couple of groups Jack went after and the concatenation of that with other Christers frowning upon him is hysterical.
I also note the possibility jack was a Poe, a thought almost too delicious to contemplate. The reality is probably more along the lines of Joe Smith perhaps, he wound up starting something that took off in a big way, and rode it to the end, regardless of his original motivations and goals.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:02 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 12:00 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Ah, but many folks who were 'in the choir' too didn't like HIS take on Christianity and thought he was a heretic.
I still see no reason to rejoice over anyone's demise. Unless, see exceptions above.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:03 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 11:31 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Jack was totally convinced (and convincing?*) ALL Catholics were evil and going to hell. His anti-Catholcism was the stuff of legends.
From Wiki:
Anti-Catholicism
However, of all the major religious groups, no one group has been the subject of more of Chick's tracts and other writings than Catholicism.
No fewer than 20 Chick tracts have Catholicism as their subject or as a major theme, including Are Roman Catholics Christians? (arguing that they are not), The Death Cookie (a polemic against the Catholic Eucharist), and Why is Mary Crying? (arguing that Mary does not support the veneration Catholicism gives her).
Chick also expounded his anti-Catholic views in several comics and other books. Most notably, he defended the controversial Alberto Rivera in at least one book and in an entire series of six full-length comics. Chick also asserted that the Catholic Church, in a grand conspiracy, created Islam, Communism, Nazism, and Freemasonry.
In The New Anti-Catholicism, religious historian Philip Jenkins describes Chick tracts as promulgating "bizarre allegations of Catholic conspiracy and sexual hypocrisy" to perpetuate "anti-papal and anti-Catholic mythologies". Michael Ian Borer, a sociology professor of Furman University at the time, described Chick's strong anti-Catholic themes in a 2007 American Sociological Association presentation and in a peer reviewed article the next year in Religion and American Culture.
Catholic Answers web published a response to the claims of Chick Publications against Roman Catholics and a criticism of Chick Tracts in general called The Nightmare World of Jack T. Chick, detailing the inaccuracies, factual errors, and how a "typical tactic in Chick tracts is to portray Catholics as being unpleasant or revolting in various ways".
* tee hee!
Interesting, thanks for the info. I had definitely never heard of him before.
Anti Catholic sentiment is not unusual among some protestant denominations.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:04 pm
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(October 29, 2016 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (October 27, 2016 at 8:16 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Even so, he's entitled to his beliefs just like anyone else.
The irony of people flaming a certain forum member for lacking empathy, yet THEIR lack of empathy is fine as long as it's towards someone who believes differently.
What's also catching me off guard is that most of these folks are supposedly against the dp. Yet act happy when someone dies?
You'll find that some people tend to take whatever position is convenient for their argument. For example, in a discussion on morality, a certain person states:
Quote:Law and order has betrayed me several times over. Even so, I still hold onto my morals because I would rather do what is right and set a good example for my children, despite the wrong that was done to me.
As for whether or not I would remain I would remain moral - if you are asking whether or not I would kill someone for my own survival, I can't honestly answer that. I have never killed anyone and don't know what that feels like.
I suppose if it meant shoving one of my children out of harms way and bearing the brunt of that harm, possibly getting killed in the process, then I don't believe I would be compromising my morals because I would be trying to protect my child. And I would do whatever was necessary achieve that.
All in all, it depends on the scenario. If my children were somewhere safe and all I had to do was worry about myself, I probably would die. Killing just doesn't seem to be an option.
Yet in a completely different thread the very same person states:
Quote:"And yeah, I don't commit murder because I AM afraid of the death penalty. That and I obey the laws because Prison Orange isn't my color. I have a list of five people who I would happily off right now if I knew that I could get away with it. So your argument is invalid."
Bottom line is, this thread is just exposing those lacking in morals, and have no business hopping on any moral high horse in the future.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:07 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 11:54 am)abaris Wrote: (October 29, 2016 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's also catching me off guard is that most of these folks are supposedly against the dp. Yet act happy when someone dies?
Bold mine.
One of the reasons why I didn't participate in this thread so far. I didn't know the guy when he was alive, but I didn't even rejoice over Thatchers demise although I despised that crone with a vengeance. It may be different when someone is still in power and does incredible damage to the world. Not the rejoicing part but the sympathy part for some assassination attempt. Hitler would have been such a figure, Stalin too, maybe some others.
That guy was just a cartoonist of dubious nature, obviously. He preached to the choir, more or less. So what's so important about him dying anyway?
Agreed.
I find it appropriate to feel a sense of relief and gratitude when a very dangerous person dies in a war - such as Hitler, Bin Laden, and Stalin. But never happy celebration.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 12:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (October 29, 2016 at 11:31 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Jack was totally convinced (and convincing?*) ALL Catholics were evil and going to hell. His anti-Catholcism was the stuff of legends.
From Wiki:
Anti-Catholicism
However, of all the major religious groups, no one group has been the subject of more of Chick's tracts and other writings than Catholicism.
No fewer than 20 Chick tracts have Catholicism as their subject or as a major theme, including Are Roman Catholics Christians? (arguing that they are not), The Death Cookie (a polemic against the Catholic Eucharist), and Why is Mary Crying? (arguing that Mary does not support the veneration Catholicism gives her).
Chick also expounded his anti-Catholic views in several comics and other books. Most notably, he defended the controversial Alberto Rivera in at least one book and in an entire series of six full-length comics. Chick also asserted that the Catholic Church, in a grand conspiracy, created Islam, Communism, Nazism, and Freemasonry.
In The New Anti-Catholicism, religious historian Philip Jenkins describes Chick tracts as promulgating "bizarre allegations of Catholic conspiracy and sexual hypocrisy" to perpetuate "anti-papal and anti-Catholic mythologies". Michael Ian Borer, a sociology professor of Furman University at the time, described Chick's strong anti-Catholic themes in a 2007 American Sociological Association presentation and in a peer reviewed article the next year in Religion and American Culture.
Catholic Answers web published a response to the claims of Chick Publications against Roman Catholics and a criticism of Chick Tracts in general called The Nightmare World of Jack T. Chick, detailing the inaccuracies, factual errors, and how a "typical tactic in Chick tracts is to portray Catholics as being unpleasant or revolting in various ways".
* tee hee!
Interesting, thanks for the info. I had definitely never heard of him before.
Anti Catholic sentiment is not unusual among some protestant denominations.
and any Chick-ite passing out stuff like this:
in front of a cathedral would have been arrested and given a restraining order.
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (October 29, 2016 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's also catching me off guard is that most of these folks are supposedly against the dp. Yet act happy when someone dies?
You'll find that some people tend to take whatever position is convenient for their argument. For example, in a discussion on morality, a certain person states:
Quote:Law and order has betrayed me several times over. Even so, I still hold onto my morals because I would rather do what is right and set a good example for my children, despite the wrong that was done to me.
As for whether or not I would remain I would remain moral - if you are asking whether or not I would kill someone for my own survival, I can't honestly answer that. I have never killed anyone and don't know what that feels like.
I suppose if it meant shoving one of my children out of harms way and bearing the brunt of that harm, possibly getting killed in the process, then I don't believe I would be compromising my morals because I would be trying to protect my child. And I would do whatever was necessary achieve that.
All in all, it depends on the scenario. If my children were somewhere safe and all I had to do was worry about myself, I probably would die. Killing just doesn't seem to be an option.
Yet in a completely different thread the very same person states:
Quote:"And yeah, I don't commit murder because I AM afraid of the death penalty. That and I obey the laws because Prison Orange isn't my color. I have a list of five people who I would happily off right now if I knew that I could get away with it. So your argument is invalid."
Bottom line is, this thread is just exposing those lacking in morals, and have no business hopping on any moral high horse in the future.
Whoa....
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Stuff like this from Jack Chick in the 70s earned my displeasure:
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:32 pm
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RE: Ding Dong, the asshole's dead!
October 29, 2016 at 12:33 pm
(October 29, 2016 at 12:21 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Stuff like this from Jack Chick in the 70s earned my displeasure:
He earned your displeasure for quoting the bible?
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