What god thinks of christian missionaries.....

[account_inactive]

Your fucking jesus was a jew, Dripshit.  Try to get that through your thick fucking head.

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[abaris]

Except for homosexuality, which is spoken about in the new testament, whether I do or not doesn't make any difference to God.  I'm not under those laws and regulations.  They have been superseded, by the new covenant.  Even the pagans during the old testament times were not under that covenant, which was made with the nation of Israel.  As for homosexuality, even if it is immoral, I'm not supposed to stone a homosexual.

I'm not going to look up the particular passage again and again, but I guess you know well enough that the NT quotes Jesus with saying that he didn't come to abandon the law but to enforce it.

So out goes your cherry picking. Unless you pick your cherries from the NT also.

[Lek]

The new testament doesn't exist on its own and is understood in light of the old.

What does it mean to understand the NT in light of the OT?  That just sounds like an empty phrase.

The old testament is the whole story of why the sacrifice of Jesus in the new testament was necessary It all points to Jesus, the messiah. Without the old testament there would be no meaning to the new testament.

[Lek]

Except for homosexuality, which is spoken about in the new testament, whether I do or not doesn't make any difference to God.  I'm not under those laws and regulations.  They have been superseded, by the new covenant.  Even the pagans during the old testament times were not under that covenant, which was made with the nation of Israel.  As for homosexuality, even if it is immoral, I'm not supposed to stone a homosexual.

I'm not going to look up the particular passage again and again, but I guess you know well enough that the NT quotes Jesus with saying that he didn't come to abandon the law but to enforce it.

So out goes your cherry picking. Unless you pick your cherries from the NT also.

The passage says that Jesus came to fulfill the law. We're not under the law because Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the law for us. That's what the new testament says. Actually, atheists are the ones who pick cherrries. They are always trying to harp on one isolated passage and ignoring others. If they look bad, then atheists like them, if they look good, then they don't.

[Minimalist]

I'm not under those laws and regulations.

That's not what fucking jesus said in your stupid-assed book.

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matty 5

You should probably go back and read the fucking thing.  See what you've been doing wrong!

[Lek]

I'm not under those laws and regulations.

That's not what fucking jesus said in your stupid-assed book.

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matty 5

You should probably go back and read the fucking thing.  See what you've been doing wrong!

If I was looking for a person who understands scripture, it wouldn't be you Mini. Who was the law given to and, therefore, was required to follow the law? It was given to the Israelites, the Jewish nation. Jesus was saying that the law would never change; he was not here to abolish the law, but he was here to fulfill it. We do know from this that the law still remains intact and must not be changed. The question then, is who is now under the law. The new testament states numerous times that if you have the Spirit of Christ, you are not under the law.

Galatians 5:18New Living Translation (NLT)
18 But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses. ( And many other similar verses.)

Who then is under this unchanging law? It's the same Jewish nation who refuses to accept the freedom from the law that Jesus offers. If they refuse to accept that salvation then they are still under the law. And here is the result of this mentality:

Galatians 3:10-12New Living Translation (NLT)

10 But those who depend on the law to make them right with God are under his curse, for the Scriptures say, “Cursed is everyone who does not observe and obey all the commands that are written in God’s Book of the Law.”[a] 11 So it is clear that no one can be made right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”[b] 12 This way of faith is very different from the way of law, which says, “It is through obeying the law that a person has life.”[c]

They were cursed and needed a savior because they couldn't obey all the commands of the law.

So am I going to worry about following the law? Of course not. So quit hitting me with all that those crazy regulations that the the Israelites were required to follow because I'm not under that law. It just doesn't apply to christians - or to you either.

[Minimalist]

If I was looking for a person who understands scripture, it wouldn't be you Mini.

Yes, I know. You need people with the Holy Fucking Blinders ON.  Those obstructions which prevent assholes from seeing the obvious holes in their so-called holy horseshit.

I recall some holy joe admitting one time that the bible was like a person... "you can torture it to make it say whatever you want."

You are a pro at that.

Meanwhile, the fucking thing says what it says.  Your problem.  Deal with it.

[Lek]

If I was looking for a person who understands scripture, it wouldn't be you Mini.

Yes, I know. You need people with the Holy Fucking Blinders ON.  Those obstructions which prevent assholes from seeing the obvious holes in their so-called holy horseshit.

I recall some holy joe admitting one time that the bible was like a person... "you can torture it to make it say whatever you want."

You are a pro at that.

Meanwhile, the fucking thing says what it says.  Your problem.  Deal with it.

In other words you have nothing to stand on except a bunch of expletives.

[vorlon13]

As for Jewish Jesusness, er, I mean, Jesus' Jewishness, I note bemusedly the NAZIs specifically noted in their race laws, that by definition, Jesus Christ and Adolph Hitler were 100% entirely NOT Jews.

So, I am sure we are all going to sleep easier tonight knowing the NAZIs straightened that all out.

[vorlon13]

And I also note, both the Old AND New Testaments agree that women need to STFU about religious matters, so in the greater Christian community, even unto this day, all God fearing Christian women everywhere know to keep their thoughts on the subject of religion entirely to themselves.

Glad we cleared that up.