Who is to blame.

[Minimalist]

We didn't demand better options.

Um, so they spend a year and a half crisscrossing the whole country and letting the whole country vote on who the nominees of the parties should be and then you come along and say "that's not good enough."

Who the fuck do you think you are?

[abaris]

Um, so they spend a year and a half crisscrossing the whole country and letting the whole country vote on who the nominees of the parties should be and then you come along and say "that's not good enough."

Hopefully you are aware of all the reports on how the DNC showed Bernie the cold shoulder and refused support whenever they could get away with it. They had their candidate from day 1. The primaries were just a formality as far as they were concerned.

[vorlon13]

Ain't any more complicated than 10,000,000 democrats stayed home on Tuesday.

You can aportion that as much as you want to Hillary or Obama.


For the life of me, I can't see how a single deplorable or Trump himself accrues even a molecule of blame for that.


And failing to accept it is setting up another fail in 2018.

[Catholic_Lady]

Solutions > Blame

I can appreciate this. 

Though it isn't (or isn't supposed to be) about blame. It's supposed to be about trying to figure out why this happened so it can be prevented from happening again in the future.

[Catholic_Lady]

I watched. A lot of what he said was stuff that I was already thinking and trying to explain on the protest thread, mainly saying that everyone who votes for Trump is a racist, bigot, sexist, etc. That's just pushing people away.  

They may not be, but at the very least they don't mind. I don't think I would call them good people if they still voted for someone like that because he claimed to stand for one or two pet values of theirs. If the KKK and their former Grand Wizard David Duke endorsing Trump didn't ring any bells, there's obviously nothing reaching them in their apathy.

From what I understand after discussing with several people who begrudgingly voted for Trump, it was more a vote against Hillary (whom they thought was worse and more corrupt) than anything else.

[abaris]

From what I understand after discussing with several people who begrudgingly voted for Trump, it was more a vote against Hillary (whom they thought was worse and more corrupt) than anything else.

I can only repeat what I always say, In for a penny, in for a pound. You buy a complete political package. If it's fine and dandy to vote for a KKK endorsed candidate to prevent the opposition, .... , well, I'm actually at a loss for words.

[The Grand Nudger]

They may not be, but at the very least they don't mind. I don't think I would call them good people if they still voted for someone like that because he claimed to stand for one or two pet values of theirs. If the KKK and their former Grand Wizard David Duke endorsing Trump didn't ring any bells, there's obviously nothing reaching them in their apathy.

From what I understand after discussing with several people who begrudgingly voted for Trump, it was more a vote against Hillary (whom they thought was worse and more corrupt) than anything else.

They didn't have to vote -for- trump...neither did I, neither did you....and neither of us -did-.  You can make excuses for them until you drop....but you'll never be able to -actually- excuse them.

[brewer]

I can only repeat what I always say, In for a penny, in for a pound. You buy a complete political package. If it's fine and dandy to vote for a KKK endorsed candidate to prevent the opposition, .... , well, I'm actually at a loss for words.

Don't you have your own election that you should be focusing and reporting on?

Edit: Or maybe that won't let you fulfill your need to be negative.

[abaris]

Don't you have your own election that you should be focusing and reporting on?

Don't worry on my behalf.

[account_inactive]

I can only repeat what I always say, In for a penny, in for a pound. You buy a complete political package. If it's fine and dandy to vote for a KKK endorsed candidate to prevent the opposition, .... , well, I'm actually at a loss for words.

Don't you have your own election that you should be focusing and reporting on?

Edit: Or maybe that won't let you fulfill your need to be negative.

Is he not allowed to discuss your election?