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Differences from societal norms
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:19 pm
Lol, if this is what it means to be a liberal...


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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:27 pm (This post was last modified: November 13, 2016 at 12:28 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: When I hear stuff like abortion isn't harmful to anyone or that it's perfectly fine morally speaking I not only understand how the liberal's disconnect from reality is complicit in the world going to shit, but I actually somehow celebrate the latter happening.

No more people = no more world going to shit.

On the contrary to abortion being harmless... if everyone was aborted it would solve all the world's problems. Even Stalin wasn't wrong about everything:

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."
― Joseph Stalin

It's just that killing is the wrong way to go about it. Don't have to be pro-death to be anti-life. No one being born = no one being born to fuck up the world.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm
Yes, ok, but it is categorically wrong to say it isn't harmful to anyone. It's harmful to fetuses.
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#34
RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm
You have to be able to experience to experience harm.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Yes, ok, but it is categorically wrong to say it isn't harmful to anyone. It's harmful to fetuses.


Exactly.  That's all.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 12:54 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: You have to be able to experience to experience harm.


Doubt if an abortion hurts any more than a circumcision and there aren't any lingering side effects like nightmares.  Angel
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: You have to be able to experience to experience harm.

If I kill you sedated you won't be able to experience it either.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm (This post was last modified: November 13, 2016 at 1:28 pm by Excited Penguin.)
(November 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(November 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Yes, ok, but it is categorically wrong to say it isn't harmful to anyone. It's harmful to fetuses.


Exactly.  That's all.

Didn't claim there was more than that. Pay attention.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 1:36 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: You have to be able to experience to experience harm.

If I kill you sedated you won't be able to experience it either.

False analogy. I already have a life, memories, hopes and dreams.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
November 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 9:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Each society develops, over time, an idea of what is and isn't "acceptable". This isn't written down anywhere; it just represents a mix of opinions at any given time. These are the norms of a society.

So my question is this: in what ways do your own ideas differ from the society you are currently in? How closely do you feel attuned to it? What do you think should be viewed more favourably, and what do you think deserves more scorn?

Define society.

The norms of my house (a society of 4) differ from the norms of my neighborhood, which differ from the norms of my city, which differ from the norms of my country, ................

I attune my norms to operate at my comfort level with in the context.
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