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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:04 pm
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I can see why you would think that, lol...........  You're over here getting pissy because we don't let them die in the streets and you think I have to -label- you a racist? All of your problems with them turn out to be fucking fantasies...and yet you still have a problem......so, you tell me, what's the problem? Do you think of illegal immigrants as criminal takers, or have you simply accepted a narrative of them being criminal takers. When you think of these criminal takers...are you imagining a french canadian?
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-If- isn't even remotely an issue. They simply do. They are not only a major source of labor and tax revenue (and this, despite their deplorable wages...think abut that)...they are also consumers. Our economy would be worse off without them. They're only here in the first place because of a demand for them. Our very culture would be worse off without them. We need to get over it, ffs. We need to stop pretending that these people are something that they are not, and we need to stop pretending that -we- are something that we are not...or, in your case, stop pretending that we aren't something we plainly are.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:07 pm
(November 15, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amen brother. Then we can deport all those citizens you're super pissy about educating, for reasons™.
I could be wrong. Maybe undocumented foreign nationals are a benefit to the economy, etc. etc. In the end it doesn't really matter to you what I believe. All you care about is labeling people who disagree with you as racist.
I would just ignore. He always has to take things to the extreme and not look at the entire context of what was said. Like saying you're being "pissy" when you're actually coming off extremely calm and objective.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:15 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2016 at 6:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I can't think of a better term for someone who thinks that it;s a problem that we admit -anyone- into an ER in this country, than pissy. Perhaps you should have taken a look at the context?
What say you, should we calmly, objectively let them die in the streets for being illegals, or for being uninsured? Does that sound like a calm, objective instance of a calm, objective problem? Or do you think that a racist just cant be "calm and objective"...because unless it's one of these two, I think you're just rubbing off a grudge based upon a sleight no one sent your way, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm
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(November 15, 2016 at 6:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can't think of a better term for someone who thinks that it;s a problem that we admit -anyone- into an ER in this country, than pissy. Perhaps you should have taken a look at the context?
What say you, should we calmly, objectively let them die in the streets for being illegals? Does that sound like a calm, objective instance of a calm, objective problem?
He's making a point about resources being limited and saying we should take care of our own poor people first.
And just to be clear, I don't agree that well integrated families with children should be deported, but I'm able to see the other person's perspective without calling them racist or accuse them of being pissy. Even though I don't agree with him entirely, he is making a logical point.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm
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Resources aren't limited in any meaningful way with regards to illegals, they -are- a resource...and, ahem, what's this "our people" business? I think they -are- our people. They're here, working their asses off....enriching our country and our lives, they risk more than any of us to get less than most of us.....just so folks like Neo here can say the sorts of shit he's said in thread. That it;s a problem that we let them into the ER. That it's a problem that we educate their american born children. That their american born children shouldn't even -be- citizens.
I can see other peoples points of view as well, relevance?
What's worse, in your opinion, being a pissy racist, or calling a pissy racist.. a pissy racist?
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:27 pm
Oh ok. Time to take my own advice and start ignoring.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:31 pm
(November 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 15, 2016 at 6:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can't think of a better term for someone who thinks that it;s a problem that we admit -anyone- into an ER in this country, than pissy. Perhaps you should have taken a look at the context?
What say you, should we calmly, objectively let them die in the streets for being illegals? Does that sound like a calm, objective instance of a calm, objective problem?
He's making a point about resources being limited and saying we should take care of our own poor people first.
And just to be clear, I don't agree that well integrated families with children should be deported, but I'm able to see the other person's perspective without calling them racist or accuse them of being pissy. Even though I don't agree with him entirely, he is making a logical point.
No he race baited period! Our resources are monopolized globally by 62 uber billionaires whom have the combined wealth of 3 billion humans
"Our people" no, there is only 1 species. Trump acted like Frank Burns on bath salts
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:33 pm
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It's actually Neo, and not Trump...that we're discussing Brian. Telling that a person hopping in would make that assumption, though, lol.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:46 pm
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(November 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 15, 2016 at 6:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can't think of a better term for someone who thinks that it;s a problem that we admit -anyone- into an ER in this country, than pissy. Perhaps you should have taken a look at the context?
What say you, should we calmly, objectively let them die in the streets for being illegals? Does that sound like a calm, objective instance of a calm, objective problem?
He's making a point about resources being limited and saying we should take care of our own poor people first.
And just to be clear, I don't agree that well integrated families with children should be deported, but I'm able to see the other person's perspective without calling them racist or accuse them of being pissy. Even though I don't agree with him entirely, he is making a logical point.
Resources are limited because we let "billionaires" go 20 years without adding a dime to the coffers.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 6:48 pm
(November 15, 2016 at 6:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He's making a point about resources being limited and saying we should take care of our own poor people first.
And just to be clear, I don't agree that well integrated families with children should be deported, but I'm able to see the other person's perspective without calling them racist or accuse them of being pissy. Even though I don't agree with him entirely, he is making a logical point.
No he race baited period! Our resources are monopolized globally by 62 uber billionaires whom have the combined wealth of 3 billion humans
"Our people" no, there is only 1 species. Trump acted like Frank Burns on bath salts
I was referring to Neo Scholastic. Not Trump.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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