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sexual orientation issue
#51
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 19, 2011 at 11:50 am)Epimethean Wrote: 3) I saw the movie Dead Girl. The issue here seems to be that, once a body is lifeless, it is a property item, but whose?

It is the property of the one who can defend their claim over it. Levitate
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#52
RE: sexual orientation issue
Quote:1. What do you think about incest?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a man who slept with his sister?
b) a woman who slept with her brother?

I don't think we should consider it "good" or "normal," but I don't think we should interfere, so long as it is consensual and does not produce children. Even when the latter occurs, I am pissed off about it, but loathe to suggest legal interference.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw them doing those things and you knew that they are brother and sister? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

The first scenario would gross me out a bit. A saw a lesbian porn once that had twins in it. My curiosity was strong, then I was mortified. As for the latter scenario, I would be completely fucking disgusted by it. I wouldn't treat my family poorly, but I would try to avoid seeing that action as much as possible.

Quote:2. What do you think about sex with animals?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a man that fucked a goat?
b) a man that was fucked in the ass by a dog?
c) a man that sucked that dick of a horse?
d) a woman that has been fucked by her dog?
e) a woman that sucked the dick of a horse?

The ick factor knows no bounds. I cannot stomach it. No, it is not "good" or "normal." My biggest gripe is that we cannot typically ascertain whether the animals enjoys it. Therefore, it may not be consensual and may actually be animal abuse. I saw one case where a man was convicted because he seriously hurt a female dog while raping her. Ugh, I feel nauseous.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

Gross, sick, fucking disgusted. It is not ok, it is potentially rape. If it were a family member, I may turn them in like anyone else. I may feel more compassion and hope they get help, but I like animals. I don't think we should fuck them.

Quote:3. What do you think about sex with dead people (and perhaps, also with animals)?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a man that fucks a dead body of a man, of woman or of an animal?
b) a man that sucks the dick of a dead man, or of a dead animal?
c) a woman that sucks the dick of a dead man, or of a dead animal?

I think it is sick. My attitude would reflect that.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

Ditto my last response.

Quote:4. What do you think about minor sex (e.g. 8 years old)?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a mature man that fucks a child (boy or girl)?
b) a boy or girl that sucks the dick of a mature man?
c) a boy that fucks a mature man or woman?
d) a man or woman that sucks the dick of a boy?
e) two 8 years old children that are fucking?

I'm sorry, reading this question has offended my sensibilities. I'm not going to think about these things for the sake of a questionnaire.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

See above.

Quote:5. What do you think about male homosexuality?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him):
a) a man that fucks another man in his ass?
b) a man that sucks the dick of a man?

Woot! Consensual adult human on human sex. That is what I'm talking about! It's fine. Everyone should think it is fine. Of course, I wouldn't be too thrilled to find a significant other doing it behind my back because I would feel like I was being used as a closet door.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)
(at this point, please specify your genre - male or female - if that is not obvious)

I'm not turned on by homosexual sex. I am indifferent to seeing it performed. I have homosexual family members and I am enthusiastically okay with it.

Quote:6. What do you think about female homosexuality?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards her):
a) a woman that is playing with sex-toys with another woman?
b) a woman that licks the pussy of another woman?

I feel the same way about lesbians as I do about homosexuals, with the exception of . . .

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)
(at this point, please specify your genre - male or female - if that is not obvious)

I'm probably going to be too honest for my own good here, but I like lesbian porno, so I would be pretty psyched to watch it. I'm not a lesbian or bisexual, though. I know that is a little strange, but there you have it. I also have lesbian family members and I am totally cool with it.

Quote:7. What do you think about prostitution and paid sex?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a man that is a male prostitute in a club or on the streets, that is being fucked by everybody (consider both situations: a. by men b. by women) for money?
b) a woman that is a prostitute in a club or on the streets, that is being fucked by everybody for money.
CONSIDERING that they are not being forced by financial problems, for whom prostitution is the only way of surviving.

Legal, normal, should be taxed like everything else. Hookers should have health plans, etc., etc. Now, I do think it should be taken off the streets. For example, don't have sex in an alley. I think legalizing it would help that problem. I would open a whorehouse as soon as the law passed.

Quote:How would you feel if you saw these persons doing those things? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

Indifferent to the first. As for the latter, I would ascertain that it was being done in good spirit. If not, I would help with everything I could to make sure my family member was happy and not abusing themselves for drugs or money.



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#53
RE: sexual orientation issue
My view on the subject is more of a purely legal one:

"Consenting" is a right only Human Adults in their right mind have. Consent is not only about sex, it's about a number of other things, like contracts.

People with mental disabilities, children, animals, dead people, none of those is legally allowed to give consent, as such an adult male having sex with any of those would commit a rape. For dead people, it would be considered as desecrating the body (same law that goes against grave-robbing), which is also illegal.
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#54
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: For dead people, it would be considered as desecrating the body (same law that goes against grave-robbing), which is also illegal.

What if they wrote in their will that they would give consent for people to fuck their corpse?
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#55
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 20, 2011 at 12:37 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(June 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: For dead people, it would be considered as desecrating the body (same law that goes against grave-robbing), which is also illegal.

What if they wrote in their will that they would give consent for people to fuck their corpse?

Talk about taking things to a whole new level.
And I thought playing with my cousin in a single sleeping bag was a whole new level. [Image: sorry.gif]
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#56
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 20, 2011 at 12:56 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Talk about taking things to a whole new level.
And I thought playing with my cousin in a single sleeping bag was a whole new level. [Image: sorry.gif]

Lol what? It's a serious question!

BTW what do you mean by playing? Thinking
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#57
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 20, 2011 at 12:59 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Lol what? It's a serious question!

BTW what do you mean by playing? Thinking

Of course....serious....Wink

And by 'playing' I mean me and my cousin crawling inside a sleeping bag.....and.....some touching, lots of moving around and some other stuff. Big Grin
Mind you we were pretty young.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#58
RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 20, 2011 at 12:37 pm)Napoleon Wrote: What if they wrote in their will that they would give consent for people to fuck their corpse?

Well it can be serious, i'm sure it has happened at some point Big Grin

It will not affect the "rape" aspect of having sex with someone who cannot consent.

For the "body desecration" aspect, I'm not familiar enough with the area...it's pretty likely that a mention in the will can be taken as "consent", and since you cannot consent to someone taking an action that affects your body in a serious way (except for surgery and other similar exceptions), the mention in the will would not be valid, and so it is still "body desecration"...
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#59
RE: sexual orientation issue
So we can give consent to let complete strangers chop us up into little bits and place those bits inside other people. But we can't give consent to let a loved one poke their willy in a few holes?
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#60
RE: sexual orientation issue
I'm guessing you're talking about organ donations, and that is why there is a buttload of texts regulating every aspect of it Smile
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