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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 2:22 am
Quote:I think there is a very high probability that there are beings in the universe which have advanced to the point where we could not distinguish between naturally evolved beings and supernatural gods.
Shit. I just had a horrible thought.
What if we are the best that evolution can do?
Put me down for full-fledged atheist.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 2:48 am
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(January 2, 2017 at 2:22 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I think there is a very high probability that there are beings in the universe which have advanced to the point where we could not distinguish between naturally evolved beings and supernatural gods.
Shit. I just had a horrible thought.
What if we are the best that evolution can do?
Put me down for full-fledged atheist.
You're a hoot, Min. Your pessimism aside, evolution works. There was complex life on this planet for at least 476 million years (based on the Cambrian Explosion to the death of the dinosaurs) before it lead to what we would call, "intelligence". So intelligence only happened on this planet because of a big, fucking asteroid. And yeah, that so-called intelligence led to Republicans. There are advances and setbacks in evolution but it inevitably moves forward. We wouldn't be here if that were not true. So yeah, I think it is a given that some beings in this universe have advanced to the point that we could not tell them apart from what we would call gods.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 4:41 am
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I'm ignostic, meaning I reject the question of Gods as meaningless until I've received more details. It can mean literally anything. So I say I'm an atheist to keep things simple, but really, this is just a pre-emptive position. Some people call the universe "God". So yes, that "God" exists. Well done. You see what I mean.
Regarding a generic intelligent creator, who doesn't necessarily have any interest in us, or even knows we are self aware, I see no evidence but I think it's an open question.
Regarding the highly specific "gods" described in religious literature, I consider the probability that they accurately represent anything real to be negligible.
It makes the whole thing much simpler when I state that I don't care, beyond scientific curiosity. I'm not interested in worshipping anything or joining cults. It makes no practical difference to me whether this is a created reality or not. (However, I do care about the harm done in the name of religion, which is why I spend so much time talking about it.)
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 4:55 am
I am a gnostic atheist no doubt.
I find ancient polytheism intriguing though and like to worship the Nabataean deities because I like to roleplay every now and then.
I guess I am weird but I am very comfortable with my atheism I have no qualms about doing silly stuff because I know exactly what they mean. A good example is that I performed a "death spell" upon myself and specifically desired it to take affect while reading a book. I am an avid book reader and I am still not dead after all these years. I guess this shows that sorcery is not real.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 5:48 am
None of the above.
I'm sure that none of the humanocentric deities exist. Earth's and the Universe's history stand against that. Humanity is just a fart on the overall timescale. We couldn't be any less important.
I can't rule out any other totally neutral higher being or intelligence, but I don't believe in that either.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 7:33 am
Atheist. I keep it simple.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 7:57 am
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Entirely depends on what is meant by God. The God of the bible? 0.00% chance. But then, almost no one believes in that.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 8:06 am
I take the unassailable, unscientific, unprovable (or disprovable) position that it is impossible for gods to exist.
I am more likely to believe in crocoducks than in gods.
Godism is stupid, childish, unsupported and harmful, both on an individual and a societal level.
If atheism were the Dark Side, I could strangle people with my mind.
I trust this makes my position clear.
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 8:21 am
I don't know...
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RE: Poll: What is your Specific Level of Atheism?
January 2, 2017 at 8:46 am
Yeah, it depends on the event. If I'm going out to a formal dinner with colleagues I'm likely to fly low as 6. Drinking brewskis with besties I might go with a 7. On acid I might drop to a 1. Is all this levels talk really on the level? No really, you can level with me.
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