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Rhondazvous · January 18, 2017 at 9:13 am

I'm confused. He said Chelsea should never have gone to jail. I don't think you're jumping down his throat for that. Then are you defending Hillary? Since when? I know you're not implying that finding fault with Hillary automatically makes a person a Trump supporter. so what gives?

**Minimalist** · January 18, 2017 at 11:37 am

(January 18, 2017 at 8:45 am)Bella Morte Wrote:
(January 18, 2017 at 5:02 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: There is zero evidence I admire Hitler. I think Min needs to look up the definition of the word "Nazi". Reminds if how Fox News hosts call Obama a Communist. Such Irrational behaviour.

See, that's the strange thing about Min. He seems to hate all the accusations against Obama but he is more than happy to throw similar, equally ridiculous accusations at people who disagree with him.

Hitler's dead for a long time....yet we still have nazis. Work on that for a while. Maybe while standing in front of a mirror.

Amarok · (This post was last modified: January 18, 2017 at 12:06 pm by Amarok.)

(January 18, 2017 at 11:37 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(January 18, 2017 at 8:45 am)Bella Morte Wrote: See, that's the strange thing about Min. He seems to hate all the accusations against Obama but he is more than happy to throw similar, equally ridiculous accusations at people who disagree with him.

Hitler's dead for a long time....yet we still have nazis. Work on that for a while. Maybe while standing in front of a mirror.

not mention the fact Hitler didn't even start Nazism or even fascism for that matter

Thumpalumpacus · January 18, 2017 at 12:53 pm

(January 18, 2017 at 8:05 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(January 17, 2017 at 5:51 pm)abaris Wrote: Since Snowden hasn't been indicted let alone sentenced, I'm not sure how a pardon would work. Maybe the Ford/Nixon kind of pardon might work.

Glad for Manning in any case.

Nixon was pardoned by Ford. That's why he wasn't tried for treason.

I don't know that he was accused of anything remotely treasonous. He was under investigation for conspiracy (regarding the Watergate break-in) and obstruction of justice.

Rhondazvous · January 18, 2017 at 4:47 pm

Why are my questions being ignored?

Cato · January 19, 2017 at 12:26 am

I agree with the Manning pardon and would also like to see immunity for Snowden. That said, Obama has made himself look like a complete asshat. Seriously, there is absolutely no difference between what Manning did and Russia's hack of Podesta's emails and subsequent release to Wilileaks. It exposes the diplomatic sanctions as petty and foolish.

**Autumnlicious** · (This post was last modified: January 19, 2017 at 1:26 pm by Autumnlicious.)

The same sanctions that were originally applied for when the Russians shot down a fully loaded passenger aircraft when it flew over the Ukraine?

Do you mean those "petty and foolish" sanctions?

People have a pitiful memory if the additional sanctions are perceived to be in a vacuum. They're not. They're part of a long list of "Stop doing that".

**vorlon13** · January 19, 2017 at 1:29 pm

ReptilianPeon · (This post was last modified: January 19, 2017 at 4:21 pm by ReptilianPeon.)

Lol. But that would mean Obama actually admitting Clinton is guilty of a crime. If Clinton gets pardoned that would mean Obama knew all along she has broken the law. There was too much money riding on the election to hinder Hilary's chances. The DNC, in its infinite arrogance, made sure Bernie didn't win and so ensured Donald Trump would become president.

It's actually rather scary to think that Democrats have now become more hawkish than the Republicans simply because they can't wrap their head around Hilary losing. Rachael Maddow* was saying on MSNBC that if Donald Trump doesn't escalate tensions with Russia and/or start World War Three he's obviously being blackmailed but Vladimir Putin. They are behaving like whiny toddlers.

NATO troops are on the border with Russia right now. Can you imagine if Russia put troops in Mexico? The Nobel Peace Prize will remain a joke in my eyes until Obama's award is revoked, not to mention that of Henry Kissinger.

*Kyle of Secular Talk has a great video about this titled:
Has Rachael Maddow Lost Her Mind?

A Theist · January 19, 2017 at 5:09 pm

(January 18, 2017 at 2:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: No more Mr. Nice Guy.

Ha ha ha ha!!!! When were you ever?

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