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Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
#81
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
Quote:Personally I don't think it's admirable to refrain from judging things like forcing women to wear burkas, or prohibiting them from doing some things that men can do, or punishing them for being raped.

Acts most Muslims in the west are not doing. But an  ignorant xenophobe like you would think that  wouldn't you . Oh and you might wanna recheck that hokey old book you follow. Because right wing christens so don't use the bible to control woman

Alpha has once again failed to use that thing in his skull

Not being a bigoted fuckwit (like him ) is not the same as being in bed with Islam .Acknowledging that islamophobia exists and is bullshit is no different the acknowledging anti-Semitism is bullshit. That doesn't mean I'm in bed with Judaism.
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#82
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(March 23, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I apologise for misjudging your obvious honesty and integrity.

I'd rather that you actually address the issue. Hillary included Islamaphobic in her basket of deplorables description. Why? I don't get it.

Offhand I'd say its because you are a deplorable.
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#83
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 23, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Orochi Wrote:
Quote:Personally I don't think it's admirable to refrain from judging things like forcing women to wear burkas, or prohibiting them from doing some things that men can do, or punishing them for being raped.

Acts most Muslims in the west are not doing. But an  ignorant xenophobe like you would think that  wouldn't you . Oh and you might wanna recheck that hokey  old book you follow. Because right wing christens so don't use the bible to control woman  

Alpha has once again failed to use that thing in his skull

Not being a bigoted fuckwit (like him ) is not the same as being in bed with Islam .Acknowledging that islamophobia exists and is bullshit is no different the acknowledging anti-Semitism is bullshit. That doesn't mean I'm in bed with Judaism.
 
Case and point http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Womens%20...t_home.htm  how does this differ from the Muslim stereotype again?
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#84
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
It was a tragic incident and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. Unfortunately, it is quite easy for people to get caught up in all the anti-Islamic rhetoric in times like this when they are scared but that definitely won't solve the problem. I recently realised that myself and I hope others will too.

The Muslim Council of Britain condemned the attack, and even started a fundraiser that has surpassed £17,000 so far. I certainly won't shed a tear over the death of the attacker, though. He got what he deserved and kudos to the authorities for acting quickly.
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#85
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
Agreed, even though I personally deplore any loss of life. The actions taken by the MCB as well as ordinary members of the public really drive a stake through the heart of simplistic, divisive and downright dangerous "us and them, you're with us or against us" posturing. That some people seem unable to recognise that is worryingly revealing.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#86
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 23, 2017 at 4:20 pm)alpha male Wrote: Things that aren't there? Do you mean:

- the left isn't supportive of Islam, or

- Muslims don't do a decent amount of bad shit, or

- both?

Well in the UK the majority of our terrorists are traditionally sects of christianity with Islam a newcomer to the terrorist table. The US A has been largely protected from terrorist attacks and tend to over react. But even in the US the majority of terror attacks are carried out by Christians, muslims account for 1% of the deaths by terrorists in the USA.



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#87
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 24, 2017 at 5:58 am)Stimbo Wrote: Agreed, even though I personally deplore any loss of life. The actions taken by the MCB as well as ordinary members of the public really drive a stake through the heart of simplistic, divisive and downright dangerous "us and them, you're with us or against us" posturing. That some people seem unable to recognise that is worryingly revealing.

I do not deplore loss of life in situations where it is justified. It would have been nice to see the attacker captured alive and sentenced to life in prison, but that's not always possible, unfortunately.

Now Daesh and their affiliates are going to see this twat as some kind of martyr. I'm totally with you on your point about the MCB though. On their fundraiser page, they even encouraged other faiths (and atheists) to get involved which is nice.
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#88
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
Mine is an ideal world in which no death is justified. Of course I have to make compromises when worlds collide. That saddens me, but I'm realist enough to understand that not everyone thinks like I do and accept that I can't change the fact.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#89
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 23, 2017 at 4:59 pm)alpha male Wrote: I can't think of a good reason for it, and it seems you guys can't either. Didn't think I was missing anything but thought I'd ask.

Maybe there isn;t one.  Perhaps we should pull your card the next time some christer sets fire to an abortion clinic?  I'm willing to entertain the notion...since you are.
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#90
RE: Shots fired outside the houses of Parliament.
(March 24, 2017 at 9:22 am)Stimbo Wrote: Mine is an ideal world in which no death is justified. Of course I have to make compromises when worlds collide. That saddens me, but I'm realist enough to understand that not everyone thinks like I do and accept that I can't change the fact.

If only, eh? I wish we could have a world like that too.
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