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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Agnosticism is not saying you can't know, but that you are not sure either way.
Whereas atheists claim God does not exist, irresispective of whether they feel they have evidence or not.
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RE: What Evidence is There For Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:25 pm
(July 15, 2011 at 6:13 pm)envolve Wrote: You are saying God does not exist so you need evidence.
Wrong, I do not claim that god doesn't exist. I simply lack belief, I reject the claim that theists have put forth. Doesn't get any simpler than that.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:25 pm
You're not listening, are you?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm
I see someone wrote our url on the nuthouse wall, again.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm
If you lack belief then you are an agnostic, so it is illogical to call yourself atheist.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm
(July 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm)envolve Wrote: Agnosticism is not saying you can't know, but that you are not sure either way.
Actually, there are forms of agnosticism that cover both of those positions. Neither of them are the definition you gave it earlier.
(July 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm)envolve Wrote: Whereas atheists claim God does not exist, irresispective of whether they feel they have evidence or not.
No, atheists don't believe in God. The term in itself is not a claim, though many atheists will make that claim. Either way, we didn't make up the idea of god. Therefore, we are under no obligation to disprove the claim. You know that, though. You are doing this for kicks, not even realizing that your game has been played more times than I can count.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:27 pm
(July 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm)envolve Wrote: If you lack belief then you are an agnostic, so it is illogical to call yourself atheist.
An atheist is one who does not believe in god. That's it.
It's not a belief or religion but complete lack of.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:28 pm
This is the only definition for agnosticism, not knowing either way; not to say you can't know but you just don't think you have evidence either way.
So you are really an agonstic and not atheist since atheism has no foundation.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:29 pm
(July 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm)envolve Wrote: Agnosticism is not saying you can't know, but that you are not sure either way.
Whereas atheists claim God does not exist, irresispective of whether they feel they have evidence or not.
Some atheist claim that no gods exist, but not all by any means. Most of us simply can't see any reason to believe in your, or anyone else's magic sky pixie.
You, on the other hand, are an atheist using your limited definition, as by asserting your own deity as the "one true god", you are explicitly denying the existence of all the others.
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RE: Do You Have Any Evidence for Atheism?
July 15, 2011 at 6:29 pm
(July 15, 2011 at 6:28 pm)envolve Wrote: This is the only definition for agnosticism, not knowing either way; not to say you can't know but you just don't think you have evidence either way.
So you are really an agonstic and not atheist since atheism has no foundation.
Agnostic Atheist. Look it up!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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