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Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
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RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
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#92
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
it really makes no sense to debate this topic since they have co-existed for ages.  The 20th century was a time of huge advances in science and technology in a highly religious US and Western Europe.  Scientists who were religious believers have made tremendous strides in the scientific world.  Just look at history and you'll see the proof that they can co-exist very well.
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#93
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
If we observe Christians and co-existence with science we can see it is relative. It can co-exist in places where Christianity has pretty much withdrawed to agnosticism. On the other hand there are millions of Christians in places like US (mostly Evangelicals) that live totally secluded lives, don't even think of sending their children to public schools because they will be thought "wicked science". Those kids can not dream to become scientists, astronauts... So for those millions it can't co-exist. They are as Paul from the Bible thought them "Fools for Christ".
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#94
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
(June 1, 2017 at 9:06 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Unless and until there is no religion, they do and have to.

Science gets along fine without religion. Religion butts in where it's not needed or required.
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#95
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
(June 3, 2017 at 7:55 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 1, 2017 at 9:06 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Unless and until there is no religion, they do and have to.

Science gets along fine without religion. Religion butts in where it's not needed or required.
For sure I agree with that.

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#96
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
This question is like asking "Can baseball coexist with quilting?"

Even if you read the bible in English and you take literal meanings as translated in English, you can still compartmentalize and keep your science in your science world and your religion in your religion world.

You don't need to hit the ball and run to the bases with quilting needles in your hands just to validate other activities.
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#97
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
(June 2, 2017 at 2:49 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Behind an eminence front
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#98
RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
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RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
(June 2, 2017 at 5:28 pm)Lek Wrote: it really makes no sense to debate this topic since they have co-existed for ages.  The 20th century was a time of huge advances in science and technology in a highly religious US and Western Europe.  Scientists who were religious believers have made tremendous strides in the scientific world.  Just look at history and you'll see the proof that they can co-exist very well.

Can we get your appraisal of some points?

When religion was burning heretics for doing science.....was it

a.)co-existing very well
b.)co-existing
c.)co existing very poorly

Was the 20th century a particularly religious century..or was it marked by vast waves of secularization?
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RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
(June 7, 2017 at 3:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(June 2, 2017 at 5:28 pm)Lek Wrote: it really makes no sense to debate this topic since they have co-existed for ages.  The 20th century was a time of huge advances in science and technology in a highly religious US and Western Europe.  Scientists who were religious believers have made tremendous strides in the scientific world.  Just look at history and you'll see the proof that they can co-exist very well.

Can we get your appraisal of some points?

When religion was burning heretics for doing science.....was it

a.)co-existing very well
b.)co-existing
c.)co existing very poorly

Was the 20th century a particularly religious century..or was it marked by vast waves of secularization?

In the time of Galileo, there was no question of the fact that there was seen a conflict of religion & science, as there were some religious (Saint Robert Bellarmine) who quit doing science, as it threatened their Catholic faith.

If there was not a true conflict between scientific reason and religious faith, then we would not be having an argument about it.
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