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Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 3:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I know I'm going to hell,

No, you're not.  It's a fucking fairy tale to scare idiots.  Now get over it, go get laid, and fucking relax.

Oh, and Fuck The Holy Spirit right up the ass!

 . . . but not at the same time the Holy Spirit is blowing Jesus out it's ass . . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
Naturally.  Would get crowded in there otherwise.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm)JackRussell Wrote:
(July 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.

Your point?  Poor guy got brainwashed into believing he had something called a "soul".  That brainwashing included the "blaspheme the Holy Spirit" bit that I use regularly.  (The holy spirit is neither holy, or a spirit, or exists at all except in the minds of people who want scare others into obeying them.)  This poor guy THINKS he's preaching, but if he's actually telling the truth (which is hard to tell because preachers NEVER tell the truth) he needs some good therapy and meds ASAP.  Oh, and to erase all of that IQ-sucking programming out of his gray matter.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 24, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 3:00 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Yeah,and you have the inside track.

Let me know how you're sure you're not just talking to yourself.

I hace A/S/K'd, silence.

Your manual fixes a different motor, the one you own and nobody else wants, the insurance is too high and the monthly payments don't add up.

You are just a salesman with an unwanted product. The market decides.

A/S/K can never be used in the 'pastense' and have one 'done it right.'

You can ask

You can seek both in past tense but one can not knock 'pastence' and say he did it according to luke 11.

Why?

Because it's a process. Asking seeking has one build a house of faith, knocking has God test that faith. (Send the wind and rain to test the house and it's foundation) if you are not building the house of faith on the God/Rock/truth of who God is, your faith will fall as there are no other God's to help you.

Eventually if keep knocking what you have built/understand will have be proven true, and God will send the winds and rain that part of your belief system will be held true. and if you keep building more and more of what you understand will be proved to be true. Till one day IF God stood in front of you, you would be able to recognize Him.



That is the only reason you do not see God now. you have no idea what to look for, and when you do find Him you dismiss Him.

Yes, but your god knows, and she never bothers. Unrequited love is a bitch.

My morality trumps your gods, because if I knew the secret, I would share it.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Naturally.  Would get crowded in there otherwise.

And running the risk of imbibing the Holy Spirit into ones urethral/genital tract would be fraught with difficult theological implications.


I'm entertaining some (hopefully) Rule 34 failing means of rescue . . . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Drich Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote: A lot of Catholics don't believe in Purgatory; they consider it to be a medieval myth.  I know that you'll quote the CCC on this, but Francis is going to revise that here soon, and so, Purgatory is likely to go the route that the Limbo of the Children went.


This sounds a lot like high Calvinism where Calvin taught that some individuals who perish in infancy were predestined to life eternal while others were predestined to perdition.
There are 5 pillars to Calvinism I agree with 2 I'm hardly a Calvinists.
http://www.calvinistcorner.com/tulip.htm

1/2 of number one and 1/2 of 2. Because that is all that is consistent with a contextual reading. Calvinism is a hoge podge of verses fragments compiled to form a cherry picked religion.

I say Jesus makes the choice of who is and is not, because that is what the bible says. and it is not based on what we say but our hearts. Calvin leaves out that bit.


I definitively have better things to do with my time than to parse through this one.  As for Jesus, he's dead and he's not coming back, ever.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.

Nice copy/paste. I think you're full of shit.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 6:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(July 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.

Nice copy/paste. I think you're full of shit.

A similar version is posted on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/religion/commen...t_my_soul/
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
(July 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm)GoneGuy Wrote: Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.

You post this, yet say how important it is to love Jesus.  You're a troll or a fool.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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