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I've found God?
#41
RE: I've found God?
Besides which, your having a mom isn't a remarkable claim. Your having a genuine god that speaks to you, is. The former can be demonstrated; the latter needs to be.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#42
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 5:08 am)ScienceAf Wrote:
(August 21, 2017 at 4:56 am)chimp3 Wrote: You have a very active imagination.

Look, I'm not here to be converted, I just wanted people to know where I am at life,

if you dont believe in god, that's fine, if you do, just as fine.

I just want people to let me be and i thought this community would be the best to talk to.

Based on the content of your previous posts here, I find it hard to believe that you've suddenly "found God."  But, fine.  I'll take your word for it if you promise me you aren't trolling, AF.
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#43
RE: I've found God?
Well this is an interesting set of events, Science!

You're young and in a point of your life where things are changing, you're growing hair in strange places, and trying to figure out life's big questions.

Whatever floats your boat, my young friend. I will go by your record here as a funny, intelligent, decent kid and say that I'm happy that you've brought some happiness in your life, and that I hope you still search for what is true without dogma. If you do that last part, I think you'll find your way.
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#44
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 4:47 am)ScienceAf Wrote:
(August 21, 2017 at 4:39 am)ignoramus Wrote: Take a deep breath, slow down and say all that again in English...!

it's hard to explain to an irreligous person, god is just, ugh it's so hard to describe and i feel people wont like me for it.

God is,
for me atleast, it's complicated.

It's called the sensus divinitatis. You can ignore it, explain it away, or explore it.

Personally, more than 20 years ago, I was as much of an atheist as anyone else here. Nevertheless my intuition of something transcendent continued to grow and has stayed with me. Some days it is stronger than others but it seems to always be there in the background.

YMMV
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#45
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 4:35 am)ScienceAf Wrote: I, I know I've said things, many things about my views on god,

I do not have 100 percent certainty but I feel god, i sound like an idiot to more than the many of you, i know

There could be many gods, there could be another being, but when I feel my love I feel it go into me and a god.

It is not the God of Islam, Allah, for his morals contradict the so called benefits I humanity

I do not know the tales of the Torah, but it's just basics to capitalism, amirite? XD (I am capitalist, it was a joke, lmao)

I do however know a fair amount of the Christian God, nameless or not, I know the changes, the reforms.

Catholisim, the Bible is interpreted by the Church, the Church tells you what they think is good, (I, in New York assume things are pretty good)
Protastanism is your own individual study, I dont know why everyone must see the bible so differently in one denomination
If you feel your love going into you, and into a god...how do you imagine that youve somehow managed to experience something going into a god?  Could it possibly -be-...that the reason -you- can feel whats "going into god" is because there's nothing more to this god....than you?

If that;s what we're discussing, the notion that you feel something going into you...and you...and that for whatever reason (I;'ll take culture for 500 alex!) you interpret this comically internal experience as a "god"....then I have no reason to object. I;m entirely certain that this is what all the other god believers are doing too. Further, that it's real, that it's happening, and that this "god" exists. After all, I'm talking to it right now.

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#46
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(August 21, 2017 at 9:06 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I was as much of an atheist as anyone else here.

and now you're evolution denying Christian? It seems you were an atheist just like Kirk Cameron claims he was an atheist. If you were truly an atheist, like any one of us, then you would understand evolution and would not go to a state where you suddenly not understand it and embarrass yourself à la Kirk Cameron and his banana proves Jesus fiasco.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#47
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 9:57 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(August 21, 2017 at 9:06 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I was as much of an atheist as anyone else here.

and now you're evolution denying Christian? It seems you were an atheist just like Kirk Cameron claims he was an atheist. If you were truly an atheist, like any one of us, then you would understand evolution and would not go to a state where you suddenly not understand it and embarrass yourself à la Kirk Cameron and his banana proves Jesus fiasco.
I understand and mostly agree with what you are saying, but rationality and skepticism are not actually required for one to claim themselves as an atheist, so it is quite possible for self proclaimed atheists to become theists.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:42 am)ScienceAf Wrote: I will view them later, but thank you, for the, advice? i dont know what to call it lmao, but thank you

Take it as an advice or just a comment. but if you do care about the truth then please don't accept something just on the basis of how it makes you feel.
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#48
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 9:57 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(August 21, 2017 at 9:06 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I was as much of an atheist as anyone else here.

and now you're evolution denying Christian? It seems you were an atheist just like Kirk Cameron claims he was an atheist. If you were truly an atheist, like any one of us, then you would understand evolution and would not go to a state where you suddenly not understand it and embarrass yourself à la Kirk Cameron and his banana proves Jesus fiasco.

You must be thinking of someone else. I think if you were to review the following links you will notice that I fully accept evolution and generally do not find intelligent design a useful paradigm.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-47425-p...pid1500285
https://atheistforums.org/thread-48032-p...pid1525636
https://atheistforums.org/thread-47031-p...pid1543928
https://atheistforums.org/thread-47031-p...pid1545604

Now I do find the neo-Darwinist synthesis in particular problematic with respect to issues concerning apparently teleological aspects of the world. This is not a religious issue. Atheist philosopher, Thomas Nagel also has reservations about the current consensus. I find the extended evolution model promising as a supplemental and fun to follow. Otherwise, I have often said I don’t have a dog in this fight and I’m not interested in debating the issue. The topic doesn’t affect my theology.

Otherwise, I think is presumptuous on your part to believe "once an atheist, always an atheist." It also very insulting and arrogant to say that atheists have a monopoly on reason.
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#49
RE: I've found God?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You must be thinking of someone else.

Oops, you're right I mixed you up with Godscreated. Sorry, my bad.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#50
RE: I've found God?
I found a sock I thought I lost.


I win.
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