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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 9:54 am
So who is this female accomplice who is apparently still alive? Do they know? Is she in custody?
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 9:57 am
(October 2, 2017 at 9:54 am)c172 Wrote: So who is this female accomplice who is apparently still alive? Do they know? Is she in custody?
From what I understand she's a "person of interest" at most.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 9:57 am
(October 2, 2017 at 9:51 am)Little lunch Wrote: That's just horrible and terrifying.
Guns is only part of the problem, in my opinion.
Mental health checks and treatment should be free for all.
Our flooded market and ease of access are the problem and fear are how the factories protect their profits.
But sure, lack of investment in health care, and lack of family stability from lack of livable wages long term also don't help.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:01 am
(October 2, 2017 at 9:57 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: (October 2, 2017 at 9:54 am)c172 Wrote: So who is this female accomplice who is apparently still alive? Do they know? Is she in custody?
From what I understand she's a "person of interest" at most.
Ah, OK. And a "person of color", according to a twitter thread I came across. We'll see if that adds to the general narrative of this event.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:03 am
(October 2, 2017 at 9:53 am)Brian37 Wrote: (October 2, 2017 at 9:41 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The NRA, not the gun companies, just the NRA, spent more than $28 million on the midterm elections in 2014. Guess who got >90% of that money?
Not the point. Firearms are products made by private industry, and like any private industry the CEO's goal is to keep and expand profits to attract shareholders. Just like Wells Fargo only got a slap on the wrist, we have allowed for far too long the corporate world to bully the rest of us.
The same reason we have our pay gap too. We have allowed the top to bully society and economic free for all with no accountability.
The worst thing congress did was to make it impossible to sue the factories.
Now when I say sue, I don't mean ban, but they should be sued for their marketing, just like big tobacco was sued and forced to stop marketing the way they were.
That was my point, Brian.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:04 am
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(October 2, 2017 at 9:54 am)c172 Wrote: So who is this female accomplice who is apparently still alive? Do they know? Is she in custody?
http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/marilou-da...-route-91/
Appears that she had resided with him since January 2017. Gut feeling is that she just chased money.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:05 am
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(October 2, 2017 at 8:47 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: I'm just curious as to his motivation, 64 year old white dude living in a retirement home outside Vegas. Doesn't exactly fit the average shooting spree bill unless I'm mistaken.
Edit: the fact that I used the phrase "average shooting spree bill" is fucking sad.
I am not accusing you of anything here.
Just getting tired of having to point out profiles and motives SHOULD NOT be the focus.
It should not matter if the shooting was accidental.
It should not matter if the shooting is a suicide.
It should not matter if the shooting is a domestic murder.
It should not matter if the shooting is mentally ill.
It should not matter if the shooting is Christian or Islamic motivated.
It should not matter if the gun was legally or illegally obtained.
The reason is one reason only. The factories have used the heat shield of the NRA and GOP and all three sell fear to protect the industry profits. We have 36,000 firearm deaths of all kinds, from both legally obtained and illegally obtained guns because the industry uses fear to keep our flooded market and ease of access.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:05 am
This excerpt is from the Wiki entry on the Texas Tower Sniper:
Texas Governor John Connally commissioned a task force to examine the autopsy findings and material related to Whitman's actions and motives. The commission was composed of neurosurgeons, psychiatrists, pathologists, psychologists, and the University of Texas Health Center Directors, John White and Maurice Heatly. The Commission's toxicology tests revealed nothing significant. They examined Chenar's paraffin blocks of the tumor, stained specimens of it and Whitman's other brain tissue, in addition to the remainder of the autopsy specimens available.
Following a three-hour hearing on August 5, the Commission concluded that Chenar's finding had been in error. They found that the tumor had features of a glioblastoma multiforme, with widespread areas of necrosis, palisading[further explanation needed] of cells. and a "remarkable vascular component" described as having "the nature of a small congenital vascular malformation." Psychiatric contributors to the report concluded that "the relationship between the brain tumor and [...] Whitman's actions [...] cannot be established with clarity. However, the [...] tumor conceivably could have contributed to his inability to control his emotions and actions", while the neurologists and neuropathologists concluded: "The application of existing knowledge of organic brain function does not enable us to explain the actions of Whitman on August first."
Forensic investigators have theorized that the tumor may have been pressed against Whitman's amygdala, a part of the brain related to anxiety and fight-or-flight responses.
I'm old enough to remember this shooting. It was a BFD 'back in the day' and unfortunately the time line for getting the above information was rather long. I note the similarity of the height of the gunman's perch in both mass shootings, and further, the shooter today is old enough to remember Whitman's assault too . . .
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:08 am
I'm sorry to hear this yanks, my condolences.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
October 2, 2017 at 10:20 am
Holy shit.
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