Two scenarios that may/may not happen.

[Crossless2.0]

Universe magically popping up?

Rik, have you ever passed a day in which you weren’t a dishonest twat?

[Little Rik]

Universe magically popping up?

Rik, have you ever passed a day in which you weren’t a dishonest twat?

Atheists do not believe in creation so the pop up theory pop up, isn't it Cross?

I guess you never though about it Cross, did you?  

[Crossless2.0]

Universe magically popping up?

Rik, have you ever passed a day in which you weren’t a dishonest twat?

Atheists do not believe in creation so the pop up theory pop up, isn't it Cross?  

I guess you never though about it Cross, did you?  

As I said, dishonest twat.

I guess you never thought about it, did you, dishonest twat? But do let me know when you've mastered 7th grade science and can give some account of cosmology that isn't your usual grotesque, imaginary version of it.

[Whateverist]

Our consciousness was not given by our parents.
It evolved from lower forms of lives but the initial start was a God creation.

Why do you think lower earlier forms of life require a creator God, Rik? If everything requires either a creator or else to be descended from something that was created, by whom were the creator gods created? Guess you never thought about that, did you?

[Cyberman]

Any inheritable traits from 'lower forms of life' a là evolution would need to be passed via reproduction, by definition. So parents are literally definitely involved in the process. Though consciousness is an emergent property of the brain, of course.

[Little Rik]

Our consciousness was not given by our parents.
It evolved from lower forms of lives but the initial start was a God creation.

Why do you think lower earlier forms of life require a creator God, Rik?  If everything requires either a creator or else to be descended from something that was created, by whom were the creator gods created? Guess you never thought about that, did you?

My believe is that is impossible for the creation to understand the creator.
Just imagine if a creature of your dreams can understand you.

How can she?
It will be impossible for her that is why it is impossible for us humans to understand the creator.

All I can do is to follow logic which tell me that within this limited universe everything is created.
It is bizarre that atheists that always praise science reject this notion that everything need a creator.

Remember this tip Whatever.
We are inside this universal container therefore we can only judge and understand how this universe works.

The day that we will be able to exit this container then we will be able to understand the rest.  

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Any inheritable traits from 'lower forms of life' a là evolution would need to be passed via reproduction, by definition. So parents are literally definitely involved in the process. Though consciousness is an emergent property of the brain, of course.

Most of the guessing are like hot air and this guessing is just one of them.

Thanks anyway for you mental effort.
Maybe next time you may hit the target.
Maybe!  





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[Cyberman]

Yeah; I was actually talking to the grownups.

[Ravenshire]

Atheists do not believe in creation so the pop up theory pop up, isn't it Cross?  

A strawman and a false dichotomy in so few words. I'm impressed.

[Pat Mustard]

The second issue regarding Christ's existence.  I'm less enthusiastic to accept the claim that Jesus never existed. A good number of historians agree that he lived

You're wrong there, a good number of christian theologians disguising themselves as historians agree he existed. Most actual historians steer well clear of the question, mainly because of the flack they'd take by pointing out the fact that there is no historical evidence for his existence.

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There very well might have been a guy named Jesus running around at that time, but that says nothing of the claims of his words,

There were thousands, Yeshua was a very common name in Hebrew circles and Chrestus/Christos was a very common name/title/use name in overlapping Hellenistic circles. Whether any of them were the basis for the Jesus cults of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th centuries which became christianity is another kettle of fish altogether.

[Little Rik]

The second issue regarding Christ's existence.  I'm less enthusiastic to accept the claim that Jesus never existed. A good number of historians agree that he lived

You're wrong there, a good number of christian theologians disguising themselves as historians agree he existed. Most actual historians steer well clear of the question, mainly because of the flack they'd take by pointing out the fact that there is no historical evidence for his existence.

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There very well might have been a guy named Jesus running around at that time, but that says nothing of the claims of his words,

There were thousands, Yeshua was a very common name in Hebrew circles and Chrestus/Christos was a very common name/title/use name in overlapping Hellenistic circles. Whether any of them were the basis for the Jesus cults of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th centuries which became christianity is another kettle of fish altogether.

Oh, sure.
So this particular Jesus never existed or he never started any thing at all so now we have to find out who spread Christianity all over then?
Even the apostles never existed.
So Christianity must have come from a different planet, isn't it?

Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan instead existed because those who tell us about them are not Christian Theologians.
Gee, i thought I am dealing with grown up people but here I am dealing with kids in the kindergarten.