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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:17 pm
(December 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm)Succubus Wrote: (December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...We know the Big Bang caused the birth of the universe...
This is as far as I read. And you can stop right there!
You were told just a couple of days ago we know no such thing. The BBT explains the expansion of the universe, not its origins. You're not getting away with shit again.
She either didn't read my response in full, or just didn't care enough to verify this for herself so goes back to believing it's true no matter what. Sigh ... what can you do about this? Nothing.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:21 pm
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(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 6. There have been multiple things that have happened which I think cannot be explained by science. To me, the most convincing is the miracle of the sun in Fatima.
This, is the 'Some' of the most convincing evidence that you've been trolling from day one. You've had a good run mind you. Oh, I forgot to add, lol
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:31 pm
Just some thoughts on CL post
1. No the big bang is not the beginning of anything . At least it never been proved too be .
2. The idea of morality between humans only proves humans are more alike mentally then not . Not that morality is some magic either floating around .
3. Jesus has all the markings of a myth not an actual person . Eye witness testimony is crap on controversial subjects. And no Jesus cannot be compared to any other historical figure . He does not fit into that category .
4. Every other religion is just workable as Christianity.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:32 pm
(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 3. The rapid fire spread of early Christianity during a time when there was no easy transportation or communication technologies. I feel some extraordinary things must have happened for so many people to be so convinced so quickly.
No dear. The extraordinary thing that happened was, the Roman empire was Christianised, where the Roman army went, Christianity went with it, that's how it spread so quickly.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:32 pm
Quote:6. There have been multiple things that have happened which I think cannot be explained by science. To me, the most convincing is the miracle of the sun in Fatima.
Argument from ignorance and credulity . And Fatima is weak at best .
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:36 pm
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(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...
I kind of ran out of time on the previous reply...
A question, for you (or others).
In a hypothetical (from your perspective) world with no deity, do you suspect we'd still see religion and morality playing a big role in human history?
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm
Sure to both. We see that in -this- world among people who don't believe in gods....so?
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm
(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nearly universally across human cultures, arguably, there exists the same basic standards of morality. In addition, there exists in all cultures truly altruistic acts which lead to no genetic benefit.
In Afghanistan villages fourteen year old girls are being stoned to death for the crime of being raped. In some of the Samoan Islands people are dining on one another. Tell me again about objective morality.
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:41 pm
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Your comment doesn't competently argue against an objective morality any more than hers competently argues for a god.
In both of your examples we see people doing things. To her, I would ask why she attributes the ideas of men to the existence of a god..and to you I would ask whether or not people wouldn't have their own fucked up ideas -regardless- of whether or not there were moral facts.
You each have each other as counterexamples arguing against both of your respective implications. Merry christmas. 
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RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:44 pm
(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
- The majority of philosophers recognize the existence of objective moral facts.
The majority of philosophers don't give any sort of fuck what other Philosophers have to say, unless of course it helps to promote their latest book.
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