Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist

[Shell B]

*sigh* So, not your first language, playing dumb or actually dumb? Got it.

[Amarok]

Why would we agree on something we don't agree on .

So you're saying that based on the story Aziz is definitely guilty of sexual assault?

As khem put it nothing i could present a judge with . But on the story i believe there are details she might be to scared to let slip.

[Shell B]

If by interesting, you mean retch-inducing.

Too each there own

You make this way too easy. I'm actually about to just conclude you literally didn't know the meaning of the phrase you used based on your post history and the stellar spelling in this post.

[Catholic_Lady]

So you're saying that based on the story Aziz is definitely guilty of sexual assault?

As khem put it nothing i could present a judge with . But on the story i believe there are details she might be to scared to let slip.

Ok, but based on what we actually know - the story. Does the story depict sexual assault?

[J a c k]

So, she’ll tell a half story? Assumptions.

[Amarok]

*sigh* So, not your first language, playing dumb or actually dumb? Got it.

Not my first language . But one i definitely understand . and i stand by what i said . I never called Tib a rapist .

[The Grand Nudger]

Trial by media is never a good thing to want. Trial by biased journalism even less so. Throughout all this discussion, we've only had one side of the story, one account of events.

Not precisely.  He responded to the allegation not by denying her version of events but by pleading a radically different perception of them..and apologizing, ofc. He knows that he did what she said he did (assuming for the sake of convenience), but he thought she was into it- is the gist.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Her comment about feeling forced came pretty early assuming Tizheruk's quotes are all in chronological order. While it's not "Hand's off, creep!", it's the type of statement that should stop any guy with a sense of empathy. I think it came before the bj and the butt and penis thing.
He still kept sticking his fingers in her mouth.

Why don't you just click the link and read the actual article?

They had gone down on each other before the feeling forced comment - within ten minutes of the first kiss actually.

Ok I did. Before any of that she stops him and says "Let's chill."
Then he becomes a cunning linguist.
The more I get into this the creepier his behavior seems.

[Thumpalumpacus]

What might she think of you when she tells you repeatedly that's she's uncomfortable, and you keep knockin' on the door?

That's not what happened:

“Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.”

Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”

You missed this part:

When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’”

Not to mention the fact that pulling away is a pretty clear indicator that your moves aren't being received well.

[Amarok]

So, she’ll tell a half story? Assumptions.

She might tell some of it now but be to afraid to release all the details . Yup it's an assumption in my counselling work i have found people only tell you part of the story at first . Then as they get confident more comes out . Darker details often as they are more painful .

I have had cases of domestic abuse victims who only start with the light stuff first . Then as the grow more comfortable with me. The more traumatizing elements come forth.