Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division

[Catholic_Lady]

Obviously a biased source, but assuming everything they said is exactly as it happened and this person was denied treatment simply because of their sexuality, did this case go to court and was it ruled acceptable?

You say obviously a biased source but this kind of treatment is normal for trans people in America. I found lots of examples that i did not link because I was looking explicitly for people being refused treatment in ER. I knew that you would be looking for any reason to dismiss the links. I even ignored one link for a transwoman who died in Pakistan when refused treatment in ER for gunshot wounds. I came across an academic paper discussing how trans people are ridiculed to the extent that they deliberately avoid going to ER. Same difference refusing treatment and making the environment hostile to a patient.

The question was whether or not this type of discrimination will be legal under the new law. (or ever). My argument is that no, it won't. And the article doesn't say otherwise.

[Pat Mustard]

Cath’s not a fundy. 💩

Catholic fundies tend to be more softly spoken and superficially reasonable than evangelical fundies. Trust me, I'm from a country which has only (partially) thrown off catholic fundamentalism in my lifetime, I know.

[Catholic_Lady]

Cath’s not a fundy. 💩

Catholic fundies tend to be more softly spoken and superficially reasonable than evangelical fundies.  Trust me, I'm from a country which has only (partially) thrown off catholic fundamentalism in my lifetime, I know.

Lol

[Shell B]

Fundy isn't about tone of voice; it's about your beliefs. IIRC, Cath's beliefs aren't fundamentalist.

[Amarok]

 I'll believe it if I see it I suppose.

No you won't you'll invent excuses . Split hairs . And move the goal post to ever higher standards .

[Catholic_Lady]

 I'll believe it if I see it I suppose.

No you won't you'll invent excuses . Split hairs . And move the goal post to ever higher standards .

It's very simple. Show me one example of a doctor refusing medical treatment to someone because that person is gay, and legally getting away with it in court.

[Pat Mustard]

It's already happened, but you decide to shut your ears to it so you don't have to do anything.  See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.

Which is how fascism gains power. Not because there are a few zealots who believe in their ideology but because normal people don't believe that it can happen.

This is why there is a white supremacist in the white house. Normal people trying to find normal explanations for abnormal views.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

People like CL forget that in the system the likes of president Shitpickle would build they are the last group, the final roundup of untermenschen to be liquidated.

[Mermaid]

My friend posted on her facebook page that she was going to refuse treatment to all patients who were not atheist.

[Amarok]

It's very simple. Show me one example of a doctor refusing medical treatment to someone because that person is gay, and legally getting away with it in court.

To which you will then invent a reason why it does not count . And ask for another example . And round and round we will go .

[Catholic_Lady]

Which is how fascism gains power. Not because there are a few zealots who believe in their ideology but because normal people don't believe that it can happen.

This is why there is a white supremacist in the white house. Normal people trying to find normal explanations for abnormal views.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

People like CL forget that in the system the likes of president Shitpickle would build they are the last group, the final roundup of untermenschen to be liquidated.

Lol.