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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:22 pm
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(January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality" and since we know it's possible it originates from God while we don't know it's possible it [goodness] originates from anything else it's proven to be from God.
Bold mine.
Are you suggesting that there are no possible alternative explanations for human morality besides god? Because, that’s just factually incorrect.
Try again, MK. Or...don’t.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:23 pm
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(January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality"
All that's been proven is that you have a compulsion to say the word god. We know that goodness has many definitions -just- in this world, and that it originates from a great many things. Two patently false statements and a non sequitur only demonstrate that your brain is busted.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:24 pm
I really just wish he wouldn't. At this point he just keeps looking more foolish with each new thread he starts.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm
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(January 21, 2018 at 5:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality" and since we know it's possible it originates from God while we don't know it's possible it [goodness] originates from anything else it's proven to be from God.
Bold mine.
Are you suggesting that there are no possible alternative explanations for human morality besides god? Because, that’s just factually incorrect.
Try again, MK. Or...don’t.
If you agree with goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality, and we know it's possible it is from God, then that proves we don't know it's possible it originates from another else but even further more, it proves it to be from God, and proves we know the other explanations are impossible scenarios for goodness to exist.
Another way to look at is to say there is only one possible explanation for goodness since goodness is defined the same in all possible worlds and we do know it is possible from God, and hence we know one explanation is possible, and hence that explanation is proven to be true.
Don't confuse this with what people claim can explain goodness is or what they claim can define it.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:29 pm
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Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, and goodness is subjective (which is obvious given that even theists have moved away from the rules and punishments described in their holy books).
The universe is an uncaring, amoral vastness, and we're all insignificant in the long run. Get used to it.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:34 pm
(January 21, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Well done. You've proven God. How clever.
Actually he's proven he's a nitwit.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:35 pm
(January 21, 2018 at 5:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality" and since we know it's possible it originates from God while we don't know it's possible it [goodness] originates from anything else it's proven to be from God.
Bold mine.
Are you suggesting that there are no possible alternative explanations for human morality besides god? Because, that’s just factually incorrect.
Try again, MK. Or...don’t.
Please, don't.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:36 pm
I keep wondering who it is that has so little respect for Mystic that they keep feeding him this trash.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:38 pm
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(January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 21, 2018 at 5:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Bold mine.
Are you suggesting that there are no possible alternative explanations for human morality besides god? Because, that’s just factually incorrect.
Try again, MK. Or...don’t.
If you agree with goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality-
I absolutely do not agree with that, MK. You’re looping back to this objective value nonsense again. Let it go.
(January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality" and since we know it's possible it originates from God while we don't know it's possible it originates from anything else, it's proven to be from God.
You’ll have to be able to define god before you try proving he’s real, MK.
I’ll try one now:
goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality and since we know it's possible it originates from the aliens who put us here, while we don't know it's possible it originates from anything else, it's proven to be from the aliens who put us here.
Your argument is vapid.
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RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 21, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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(January 21, 2018 at 5:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If you agree with goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality-
I absolutely do not agree with that, MK. You’re looping back to this objective value nonsense again. Let it go.
The value is veiled today, but your leader and guide will manifested tomorrow, but on that day, when you know what you were linked to, what witness called you to the truth of vision and light from God, than you will truly know with eyes of certainty and be asked regarding how you responded to the divine favors of God who are the names of God.
I am sorry, but you act like this is trivial. It's by definition the opposite of trivial thing in your life. It's by the definition the most important.
And among the things that proves goodness is a living link to the source, a mystic guide and leader, and guides by his witnessing vision, is the proof that rehearsed God signs and proofs, Mohammad who was during his time that link and proof.
And among the proofs in the past is Abraham. And today, the hidden proof, that forgotten one, the abandoned one, is the 12 Successor of the Sealer of revelations who God sealed revelations to unite all lands to his rope and hand hold.
And to hate who is the essence of goodness and the guide to love by which love should primarily attach themselves to, to hate the guide and his family, to hate the reminder and his family, is by definition evil.
To hate that sword of God with you saying I will be your weapon if you give me a chance, that is the worse sin possible. Who disbelieves in the holy spirit and forsakes it, forsakes everything and becomes in the realm of the shadows, were they have to overcome trials and believers call them, but they are so far gone in irrationality, that all the believers warn by through what they learned, sounds silly.
Go ahead laugh at all this.
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