Western terrorism.

[Amarok]

I'm not sure they invented organized warfare . And their have been periods of peace in the middle east.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm not sure they invented organized warfare . And their have been periods of peace in the middle east.

A bit of hyperbole on the peace, but they did have the first organized wars in that part of the world. And their martial tradition endured, and cause other countries to follow suit or be bowled over.

[WinterHold]

Who appointed the U.S to be the "guardian angels"; or "vigilantes" ?
I don't need free favors that turn into blood sucking with time. That's the first thing.

The second thing, is "eye for an eye".
If somebody took an eye; take "their eye". Don't take the eye of their sons.

They commit the crime; not their sons and daughters. Burn the soldiers; why burn the civilians who did nothing?

Dumbass, the killing would have been worse if we hadn't thrown in with the Chinese. We were trying to stop the murders, stupid.

And there were very few non-combatants in Japan at the time, by the declaration of the Japanese War Minister. He also put the war industries in the civilian homes, making them legitimate war targets. If you want to blame someone for the deaths, blame General Anami.

Asses don't have brains to be dumb.

I'm speaking to the American government of that time, commit terrorist actions against the Japanese civilians; terrorizing ranging from burning them alive to nuke them.
Please stick to the context.

All you provided as a justification for that terrible massacre, is street-bully justification for the beating of Jimmy's little sister.

A single burned-alive child, killed with the American air raids of death, is a terrorist act and a terrible crime.

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Generals always think the solution is war..it doesn't matter where (or what culture) they're from.  So, too, weapons manufacturers see war as opportunity.  The "western" fat cat is no more or less evil than their middle eastern counterparts.  

You mischaracterize "westerners" being self critical of our history.  We are institutionally hyper-critical.  It's not just a few of us, it's the fabric of our historical narrative.  You're the one bullshitting people incessantly about the glory and justice of the ummah.  Every american knows that what happened to the natives was fucked up, because that's what we teach our children, as a counterpoint.

So clean your own house..ours is in order, at least on that count.

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AtlasS33 said:

We're all humans. But a person who allowed a religion of madness to control their heads; and allowed a culture of worshiping white skin to control their hands, is a person that just crossed humanity to something else.

Don't hate me; Arabs; Indians; and westerners. You are all humans. Even if you forgot that for a moment.
Honestly? this whole world doesn't seem right.

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He wants retribution from his war won territory. Tell you what Atl-ass, instead of making yours a better place, you are the coward that blames it on everybody else. Truly you were born without balls and brains to do it.

Any sane person; from the west to the east, admitted and acknowledged that there was no WMDs in Iraq, admitted that the U.S armed, funded and supported Jihadi terrorists in the Middle East, the west supports Arab dictators:





? Did you wake up yet?
Without the west; Arab dictators will fall tomorrow and democracy will happen in our region. It is the west that is backing these terrorist regimes with arms and intelligence support, to break our bones. All to keep our resources in the belly of the fat cats controlling every brick in the west.

Please LP.. Fuck Off.

[The Grand Nudger]

Theocracy would happen in your region, and your silly ass would be tossed off a building or buried to your neck and hit in the head with stones until dead.  Don't kid yourself. We've been there, ourselves. It was a hole we had to scramble out of by tooth and nail..it took centuries (and we're still not out of the woods).. there isn't much of it that's anything other than wholly regrettable in retrospect. Large portions of the middle east, today, are eagerly looking forward to repeating the failures of the west's past with newer more comprehensive tools of suffering than anything we possessed when we did it, these...too, borrowed from the west.

[WinterHold]

Theocracy would happen in your region, and your silly ass would be tossed off a building or buried to your neck and hit in the head with stones until dead.  Don't kid yourself.  We've been there, ourselves.  It was a hole we had to scramble out of by tooth and nail..it took centuries (and we're still not out of the woods).. there isn't much of it that's anything other than wholly regrettable in retrospect.  Large portions of the middle east, today, are eagerly looking forward to repeating the failures of the west's past with newer more comprehensive tools of suffering than anything we possessed when we did it, these...too, borrowed from the west.

I'll take my chances. Better to be executed, than to live as a coward, feeding on western-fatcat toes.
Like so many nurtured sheep. The same blood suckers that would execute me, lie to all the planet about WMDs, lie about terrorism and that it's a "new Islamic thing" -not showing the world the demonic face of western military-.

Don't worry. Building tossing is a mercy compared to the western-backed Arab-maintained gulags that I might be sent to for my beliefs. But the winning parts of WW2 can go to hell: they caused -along with the losing side that is Hitler and Japan- more than 60 Million casualties.

Hellish demons. That's what I would call them; no suites and no fancy perfumes are going to mask the hideous stink coming off them.

Iraq was hell, because so many despised the American invasion. That's what invading troops go through across history: they get bashed; until they leave.

How many kids lost their family members due to "collateral damage"? BTW; these kids are "the core of ISIS" now. Many turned insane due to brutalities American soldiers inflicted upon them; through killing in the most gruesome ways, to organized torture -like we saw in Abu Ghuraib-.

Honestly; I would be very surprised if Iraqies didn't give American soldiers "hell".





Where are the "WMDs"?
Why not lose your own storage; demand you government to empty its storage, before invading other countries?

The situation exploded to a degree, that black and white spots became so mixed, resulting in chaos.
Chaos that worked so well as a warm environment for very very extreme versions of Islam to grow; to repay the insulting blood-covered lie of WMDs.

Remember the shoe toss at Bush whenever you remember Iraq. Now; American soldiers left the rivers of blood they spilled in 2003, and left the locals to deal with the cleaning, and the hordes of damaged youth that compose ISIS now. ISIS would never gain the inflation it gained, without the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

And guess who's gonna be punished when Jihadists attack my city ? All Americans are already left.

[The Grand Nudger]

The arab world was -on- the losing side with hitler and japan....lol.

[WinterHold]

The arab world was -on- the losing side with hitler and japan....lol.

I was speaking about the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a continuation of terrorism of WW2.
Stick to the context; please.

[WinterHold]

The good people in the west are behind the change; not the regimes and the elites controlling all the money. These warmongering fatcats are the same as before, their interests push regimes to wage the wars in the first place.

I never said the common westerner is evil: but the common western fat cat is. Taking a look at Trump or the Federal Reserve give us quite a good idea about who moves wars and why.

A small portion of the people though, are the blockade against such evil. Still; the majority will not move to do good, or move against evil policies dictated by the few; unless Millions die.

Some westerners criticize their history; only some. Majorities -like in America- vote the opposite; sometimes even twice in a row -Bush the son-.
I insist though that good people exist in degrees. The sense of criticizing one's own history, is very rare to find around the Middle East. Very very rare; and it doesn't even compare to the west. That's a fact.

But it exists.

The middle East needs to start criticizing its own history. This is a religious problem, because so much of its history is tied up in religion.

Criticize how, when the Arab regimes -which are backed by either the West or Russia-are putting the sword on our necks?
Watch the video I posted to Kemikal.

Criticize the past=revolution. Western regimes doesn't want that. They have "interests" in us being sheep.
Western governments never want us to advance.

[The Grand Nudger]

Heaven forfend anyone mention that the ummah wore a swastika while you bitch about ww2..... 

An "advanced" middle east would end with nukes being dropped on jews, and just generally anybody else that islam has a long running grudge against. Hell, it's not as if you really like the advanced parts of the middle east anyway. You complain about them to no end as well.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well, I guess the Japanese shouldn't have started the war in the Pacific if they couldn't deal with the resulting shit.