Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns

[Shell B]

More like I was a neglected kid with an alcoholic parent and teachers who didn't give a shit, but I had a bad streak too.

That's awful...

I'd say you turned out quite alright though!

Nah, still love my family and my life. Shit happens. Also, weed's nice. I'd still smoke it if I could.

[henryp]

100,000 schools.  2 armed guards per school.  200,000 people making 20,000 = 4,000,000,000.

4 billion to maybe prevent, what, 20 deaths a year?

If you're in law enforcement you're going to get paid by the government regardless of what particular job you have. If they weren't working at a school, they'd be working somewhere else, also getting paid by our tax dollars.

We have a cop that stops by during the carpool 30 minutes a couple times a week to punish speeders in the school zone.  Perhaps if they made it a part of the job to stop by schools on a semi regular basis.  Just the notion that if you're planning on going on a shooting spree, there could be a cop there would change things.  

These shooters are essentially sacrificing their lives to be able to kill some kids at the school.  Right now, it's a sure thing.  If there was a chance they'd be sacrificing their life and not get to shoot anyone, that may change the mental math they do.

[Shell B]

Dude in Florida's still alive. He surrendered like a little bitch. Should have killed himself.

[Pat Mustard]

Because norhing reduces casualties more than ignoring the cause of the problem and adding more guns.

An armed police presence MAYBE...

Yes, to be fair he did also suggest having veterans on site, which i think may work.

What having returning vets with ptsd issues going around with loaded weapons in volatile, unpredictable and loud environments? That'll end well.

[Amarok]

Dude in Florida's still alive. He surrendered like a little bitch. Should have killed himself.

Most of them don't survive .Most of them want to die.

[Pat Mustard]

#5. I'm 5'4, and weigh roughly 110 lbs, how hard would it be for a student to overpower me and get my gun?

It depends, a jock would take all day to figure out his left foot from his right one, and a nerd would have to wait until he rolled a natural twenty.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yes, to be fair he did also suggest having veterans on site, which i think may work.

What having returning vets with ptsd issues going around with loaded weapons in volatile, unpredictable and loud environments?  That'll end well.

We're not all crazy. I mean there has to be one out there who isn't.

[Pat Mustard]

Because the state of Israel doesn't allow Palestinian kids to go to school. Therefore when the IDF shoots unarmed Palestinian children they're not in school. Hence no school shootings.

[KevinM1]

I also find it sad and funny that conservatives are willing to pay for armed guards for every school in America, but don't want to increase funding for education itself.

You cannot learn if you're dead. Sadly, people like you don't think children are worth protecting.

Cool talking point, bro.  Got any other laughable pearls of ignorance you want to share?

Also, you do realize that our mass shootings are a symptom of larger problems, and that moving towards a police state does nothing to solve those problems?  I mean, for a guy so obviously enamored with how smart he thinks he is, you don't seem to be grasping the actual issues at play.

So schools are hypothetically protected (they're not, but let's go with it). Cool. Now, parks are going to get shot up. Or hospital emergency rooms. Or more outdoor festivals. Or restaurants (remember France?). Or movie theaters. Or a million other soft targets. Are we going to guard all of them, too?

You want to help? I mean really help? Stop restricting access to healthcare. Stop punishing people with pre-existing conditions. Stop with the NIMBY bullshit when it comes to treatment centers. That, at the very least, would be a good place to start.

Armed guards in schools? It's a laughable band-aid. The best it could do is move an attack to a different location. Maybe not in school, but outside it. But the same people with the same mental makeup will be feeling the same anger and desperation, and will be making the same terrible choices. And how do I know this? Because guards don't address the underlying issues, issues that conservatives have always buried their heads in the sand about.

So, let me turn your insult back on you. You only care about security theater. I care about actually addressing the underlying issues that cause people to shoot up schools to begin with. Why don't you actually care about our kids?

[JMT]

If we could have a world without guns it would be great. But no, it wouldn't, we'd still have swords and knives and clubs, and if we got rid of those we'd still have pitchforks and arms and legs. So we have to do something that will deal with reality. Reality is there are guns and anyone that wants one bad enough can get one. So yes, education, but yes, also protection. It's not an either/or. They're addressing two different, but related issues. My .02c