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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 9:41 am
(February 25, 2018 at 9:39 am)Tizheruk Wrote: People with depression can seem happy , outgoing , Fun , And successful . But inside their depression is eating them up inside and they will snap . The scars inside are hard to see .
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 9:51 am
(February 25, 2018 at 9:41 am)Cyberman Wrote: (February 25, 2018 at 9:39 am)Tizheruk Wrote: People with depression can seem happy , outgoing , Fun , And successful . But inside their depression is eating them up inside and they will snap . The scars inside are hard to see .
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 10:20 am
Are any of you considering the difference between endogenous vs exogenous, psychologic vs biologic or situational vs intrinsic depression?
A job could help if the source of depression is loosing a job. But other than that, probably not much help.
Don't forget that depression that begins as extrinsic can lead to intrinsic.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 11:02 am
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(February 25, 2018 at 10:20 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Are any of you considering the difference between endogenous vs exogenous, psychologic vs biologic or situational vs intrinsic depression?
A job could help if the source of depression is loosing a job. But other than that, probably not much help.
Don't forget that depression that begins as extrinsic can lead to intrinsic.
You have a point .And yes i do consider it here and in all my cases. Thou i question dividing the subjects that way. As sometimes it's not a versus sometimes there is great deal of overlap of categories ( psychological and biologic) and the uncomfortable fact not as easily divided as some would think .
But i will point out that even if the loss of a job was the source of the depression . It might not be the best way of dealing with it. And then comes the question of what element of work elevate the depression and could they be replicated without the negative effects .
As to the final point i agree .
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 11:25 am
(February 25, 2018 at 10:20 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Are any of you considering the difference between endogenous vs exogenous, psychologic vs biologic or situational vs intrinsic depression?
A job could help if the source of depression is loosing a job. But other than that, probably not much help.
Don't forget that depression that begins as extrinsic can lead to intrinsic.
Sure, but that wasn't the situation in question. Moreover, if you become clinically depressed from losing a job, you likely had a biological propensity toward depression. The majority of people don't suffer from clinical depression upon losing a job. They get bummed out, sure, but that's a really far stretch from the "real thing."
I never had depression or anxiety until I was in my late 20s. It really threw me for a loop just how physical it was and how different from sadness and even grief I had felt in my life. It was so different in fact that I wouldn't even call it sadness. I could never even begin to explain what it's actually like to someone who's never had it.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 11:49 am
Just trying to take a neutral position and look at both sides.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 11:51 am
I can understand that. I simply don't think AT meant it in any way that could be construed as helpful. There are probably a lot of things Brian *could* do to help his situation, but AT wasn't genuinely trying to help him or get him to help himself.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 12:02 pm
(February 25, 2018 at 11:51 am)Shell B Wrote: I can understand that. I simply don't think AT meant it in any way that could be construed as helpful. There are probably a lot of things Brian *could* do to help his situation, but AT wasn't genuinely trying to help him or get him to help himself.
OK, that explains some. I tend to skip Brian and AT posts.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 12:24 pm
(February 25, 2018 at 12:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (February 25, 2018 at 11:51 am)Shell B Wrote: I can understand that. I simply don't think AT meant it in any way that could be construed as helpful. There are probably a lot of things Brian *could* do to help his situation, but AT wasn't genuinely trying to help him or get him to help himself.
OK, that explains some. I tend to skip Brian and AT posts.
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RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 25, 2018 at 1:04 pm
(February 25, 2018 at 11:49 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Just trying to take a neutral position and look at both sides.
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