Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.

[The Grand Nudger]

What is? Evidence that people say things? How much have I won Trebek?

[Captain Scarlet]

Atheism and Evolution are scientifically impossible.

Baseless assertion and also false. Atheism cannot be proven wrong by science and evolution has been the ONLY accepted scientific theory in support of current biodiversity, paleontology, bio geography etc since it's discovery.

Atheism, the denial of the necessity for any intelligence in the establishment of the universe and all of the life within it has been proved to be scientifically impossible.

With the arrival of nanotechnology and microbiology, and the ability for scientists to examine DNA at the sub-atomic level, honest scientists all agree that DNA could not possibly have evolved as Darwin suggested. They all now agree that DNA had to have been the product of an incredibly advanced form of intelligence

What DNA research are you referring to at the 'sub-atomic' level. Do you even understand what you are writing? You fail ' The no true Scotsman' fallacy by using the pejorative 'honest' scientists. Darwin said nothing at all about DNA. And absolutely no, none, zip published research has ever been produced which claims DNA is the result of intelligent design. I'm imagining your thesis will now turn to the conspiracy theory the 'dishonest' scientists are holding back the 'honest' ones. which is as ridiculous as your arguments.

The Darwinian Atheist believes that DNA simply arrived on the scene by some form of cosmic chance or luck, not requiring any form of intelligent assistance. Of course, to make themselves sound less ridiculous, Atheists like to use the term Natural Selection to explain such things. Of course, Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection is just that, a theory, which has now been scientifically proven to be false.

I'm not sure what a Darwinian atheist is. But I'll assume I qualify. Darwin had nothing to say on the origin of life, just what happens once life gets started. The origin of life is the subject of abiogenesis which is an area of research with inadequate conclusions as to early life formed and thus opinions on this are suspended. You however prefer to infer that god zapped something into existence with nothing to back this up other than the ramblings of goat herding tribes, that scribbled some nonsense down in genesis. The only arguments that sound ridiculous are yours. The theory of natural selection, like the theory of gravity, the standard theory of particle physics, string theory are powerfully predictive models of their subject area explaining all facts currently understood. They have practical applications too, evolutionary theory is used in farming and agriculture. Basically they work. They are however falsifiable, they can be debunked if evidence is surfaced debunking them. So far not a single shred of evidence has been brought forward debunking evolution. The mindless arguments you put forward certainly won't, but keep trying!

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[downbeatplumb]

Is this thread about it being impossible not to believe in god?

If so it is flawed because....................... drum roll.....................I dont believe in god.

We dont really need to bring any science into it. I didnt believe in god before I knew abot evolution or the big bang theory. I have never believed in god. Lack of belief in god was always my default position. Nothing I have seen or heard has ever caused me to doubt for one second that my default position is true. In fact everything I have learnt about the universe has shown how silly the idea of the abrahamic god is and I think it unlikely that there is a deist god.

Theists, partiularly of the abrahamic god have to battle against the wealth of evidence that contradicts the biblical god. with 'that wasnt meant meant literally' and other poor excuses. Belief is their default position and a default position is hard to move from.

[Zen Badger]

Atheism and Evolution are scientifically impossible.

Atheism, the denial of the necessity for any intelligence in the establishment of the universe and all of the life within it has been proved to be scientifically impossible.

By who??

With the arrival of nanotechnology and microbiology, and the ability for scientists to examine DNA at the sub-atomic level, honest scientists all agree that DNA could not possibly have evolved as Darwin suggested. They all now agree that DNA had to have been the product of an incredibly advanced form of intelligence.

And which scientists would they be?

The Darwinian Atheist believes that DNA simply arrived on the scene by some form of cosmic chance or luck, not requiring any form of intelligent assistance. Of course, to make themselves sound less ridiculous, Atheists like to use the term Natural Selection to explain such things. Of course, Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection is just that, a theory, which has now been scientifically proven to be false.

And who proved it to be false?

[The Grand Nudger]

A Calvinist would tell you that deep down you actually do know God Plumb. Making atheism impossible. You're just being a whiny douche, they'd say. I really dislike Calvinists.

[KichigaiNeko]

A Calvinist would tell you that deep down you actually do know God Plumb. Making atheism impossible. You're just being a whiny douche, they'd say. I really dislike Calvinists.

Please forgive my ignorance ...
But didn't the Calvinists instigate the US (read original colonists) ...at least initially??

[Captain Scarlet]

"I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Sir Isaac Newton

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." - Albert Einstein

''A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.'' - Sir Francis Bacon

"All that my work has shown is that you don't have to say that the way the universe began was the personal whim of God." - Stephen Hawking

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein

"atheism leads a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation: all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue..." - Sir Francis Bacon

So do I win the argument now, cos my quotes are better? I doubt it! Quote mining, unless used for humor or effect, is the sign of an argument bereft of any substance at all. And for every crappy one you can dig up, someone else will be able to dig up equal and opposite ones.

[The Grand Nudger]

A lot of the initial settlers in New England and the Mid Atlantic were Calvinists, yeah. The people who sailed from Plymouth to Plymouth were Puritans. (It's hard to keep up with them all isn't it?)

[KichigaiNeko]

A lot of the initial settlers in New England and the Mid Atlantic were Calvinists, yeah. The people who sailed from Plymouth to Plymouth were Puritans.

This is my understanding of American colonisation.

[Thor]

No matter how small you slice the physical universe down to, it can't find its explanation for existence in itself, something outside it had to have created it.

This isn't even an argument. This is just sticking your imaginary deity in as explanation for something we can't explain!

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"I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Sir Isaac Newton

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." - Albert Einstein

''A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.'' - Sir Francis Bacon

Let's all put on our hardhats and go quote mining!