Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions

[Transcended Dimensions]

I would like to add one last thing here which I think is important.  I think my personality plays a big role in my lack of conviction towards any given claim whether it be the claims of skeptics of this being the one and only life or claims of the paranormal.  When, for example, fundamentalist Christians tell me to use a shortcut to arrive at the truth that we are all sinners worthy of hell unless we repent, I tell these Christians that I will not be trapped inside their box.  As a result, I do not buy into their shortcut methods.  The same idea applies to the skeptics.  

I also don't buy into their shortcut methods at arriving at what they think is the truth.  Even though I would really want there to be the blissful afterlife of my dreams, I have to also apply this same mindset to paranormal researchers who claim that there is a blissful afterlife for all of us.  As you can see here, I do not fit into any one's box.  I am outside of the box which means no shortcut method can ever trap me into any one of these boxes (worldviews).  Thus, I am put into a position where I think that the only true way to arrive at the truth is not through these shortcut methods, but instead through full research.

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What full research would you like to do, that has not already been done ?
Can you be specific ?

I don't plan on doing any research since I have no interest.  I am just saying that, in order for me to arrive at the truth as to whether the skeptics are right or the paranormal researchers are right, then that would require me to do full research into both the skeptical field, the paranormal field, as well as all the objections being said and addressed by both sides of the debate.

[robvalue]

If you won't define paranormal, I'll define it for you: "Unexplained phenomena which people jump to hasty conclusions about based on common fictional stories."

If you have a better definition, please go ahead.

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*bold mine*

What full research would you like to do, that has not already been done ?
Can you be specific ?

I don't plan on doing any research since I have no interest.  I am just saying that, in order for me to arrive at the truth as to whether the skeptics are right or the paranormal researchers are right, then that would require me to do full research into both the skeptical field, the paranormal field, as well as all the objections being said and addressed by both sides of the debate.

Bold mine.

This is exactly what I'm trying to clear up. Right about what? Sceptics generally say there is no testable, repeatable evidence for "the paranormal", and unless investigators are hiding it away somewhere, they are right. This isn't jumping to conclusions.

I'm not for a moment saying strange things we don't understand aren't going on. They almost certainly are. The difference between a sceptic and one of these other guys is that the sceptic looks to understand using rigorous methods and not to jump to conclusions. It's possible to criticise someone's methods without saying everything they are trying to study is necessarily non-existent.

[ignoramus]

[SaStrike]

I would like to add one last thing here which I think is important.  I think my personality plays a big role in my lack of conviction towards any given claim whether it be the claims of skeptics of this being the one and only life or claims of the paranormal.  When, for example, fundamentalist Christians tell me to use a shortcut to arrive at the truth that we are all sinners worthy of hell unless we repent, I tell these Christians that I will not be trapped inside their box.  As a result, I do not buy into their shortcut methods.  The same idea applies to the skeptics.  

I also don't buy into their shortcut methods at arriving at what they think is the truth.  Even though I would really want there to be the blissful afterlife of my dreams, I have to also apply this same mindset to paranormal researchers who claim that there is a blissful afterlife for all of us.  As you can see here, I do not fit into any one's box.  I am outside of the box which means no shortcut method can ever trap me into any one of these boxes (worldviews).  Thus, I am put into a position where I think that the only true way to arrive at the truth is not through these shortcut methods, but instead through full research.

I don't plan on doing any research since I have no interest.  I am just saying that, in order for me to arrive at the truth as to whether the skeptics are right or the paranormal researchers are right, then that would require me to do full research into both the skeptical field, the paranormal field, as well as all the objections being said and addressed by both sides of the debate.

You're either too lazy or not applying your mind properly. Research has been done into paranormal/supernatural, if you're not even interested then why jump to conclusions? You take these shortcuts yourself.

How can you claim to not be interested in doing the research then claim people took shortcuts? You really try your best to be special. You'e just ignorant. I would say you're actually trapped in a box intellectually. All your forum posts and threads prove so.

[Transcended Dimensions]

If you won't define paranormal, I'll define it for you: "Unexplained phenomena which people jump to hasty conclusions about based on common fictional stories."

If you have a better definition, please go ahead.

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I don't plan on doing any research since I have no interest.  I am just saying that, in order for me to arrive at the truth as to whether the skeptics are right or the paranormal researchers are right, then that would require me to do full research into both the skeptical field, the paranormal field, as well as all the objections being said and addressed by both sides of the debate.

Bold mine.

This is exactly what I'm trying to clear up. Right about what? Sceptics generally say there is no testable, repeatable evidence for "the paranormal", and unless investigators are hiding it away somewhere, they are right. This isn't jumping to conclusions.

I'm not for a moment saying strange things we don't understand aren't going on. They almost certainly are. The difference between a sceptic and one of these other guys is that the sceptic looks to understand using rigorous methods and not to jump to conclusions. It's possible to criticise someone's methods without saying everything they are trying to study is necessarily non-existent.

But the paranormal researchers would reject that claim skeptics make.  The researchers say that there really is testable, repeatable evidence and that these skeptics are just close minded.  They say these skeptics don't bother to fully research to discover that there really is actual evidence for these phenomena.  Therefore, any argument you come up with against the paranormal researchers and their findings won't work because any argument a skeptic would make I can make against the skeptics just like I have done in this very post.

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I would like to add one last thing here which I think is important.  I think my personality plays a big role in my lack of conviction towards any given claim whether it be the claims of skeptics of this being the one and only life or claims of the paranormal.  When, for example, fundamentalist Christians tell me to use a shortcut to arrive at the truth that we are all sinners worthy of hell unless we repent, I tell these Christians that I will not be trapped inside their box.  As a result, I do not buy into their shortcut methods.  The same idea applies to the skeptics.  

I also don't buy into their shortcut methods at arriving at what they think is the truth.  Even though I would really want there to be the blissful afterlife of my dreams, I have to also apply this same mindset to paranormal researchers who claim that there is a blissful afterlife for all of us.  As you can see here, I do not fit into any one's box.  I am outside of the box which means no shortcut method can ever trap me into any one of these boxes (worldviews).  Thus, I am put into a position where I think that the only true way to arrive at the truth is not through these shortcut methods, but instead through full research.

I don't plan on doing any research since I have no interest.  I am just saying that, in order for me to arrive at the truth as to whether the skeptics are right or the paranormal researchers are right, then that would require me to do full research into both the skeptical field, the paranormal field, as well as all the objections being said and addressed by both sides of the debate.

You're either too lazy or not applying your mind properly. Research has been done into paranormal/supernatural, if you're not even interested then why jump to conclusions? You take these shortcuts yourself.

How can you claim to not be interested in doing the research then claim people took shortcuts? You really try your best to be special. You'e just ignorant. I would say you're actually trapped in a box intellectually. All your forum posts and threads prove so.

If the skeptics really have done full research, then I have no way of knowing if the conclusion they have drawn was correct.  I mean, you can do full research into something, but still draw the wrong conclusion.  I, myself, would have to do full research to draw my own conclusion.  But, like I said, I have no interest in this research. I can only hope that the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die without actually knowing one way or the other whether the afterlife and paranormal are real phenomena or not.

[Succubus]

...If the skeptics really have done full research, then I have no way of knowing if the conclusion they have drawn was correct.  I mean, you can do full research into something, but still draw the wrong conclusion.  I, myself, would have to do full research to draw my own conclusion.  But, like I said, I have no interest in this research.  I can only hope that the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die without actually knowing one way or the other whether the afterlife and paranormal are real phenomena or not.

Is this the only tune you can sing? The PEAR institute spent 28 years and millions of dollars and found precisely..... Fuckall!

[Transcended Dimensions]

...If the skeptics really have done full research, then I have no way of knowing if the conclusion they have drawn was correct.  I mean, you can do full research into something, but still draw the wrong conclusion.  I, myself, would have to do full research to draw my own conclusion.  But, like I said, I have no interest in this research.  I can only hope that the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die without actually knowing one way or the other whether the afterlife and paranormal are real phenomena or not.

Is this the only tune you can sing? The PEAR institute spent 28 years and millions of dollars and found precisely..... Fuckall!

Here again, you are using a shortcut to conclude that the paranormal is all bullshit.  But there is much more research out there to keep an open mind to such as the research conducted by Dean Radin.

[SaStrike]

If you won't define paranormal, I'll define it for you: "Unexplained phenomena which people jump to hasty conclusions about based on common fictional stories."

If you have a better definition, please go ahead.

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Bold mine.

This is exactly what I'm trying to clear up. Right about what? Sceptics generally say there is no testable, repeatable evidence for "the paranormal", and unless investigators are hiding it away somewhere, they are right. This isn't jumping to conclusions.

I'm not for a moment saying strange things we don't understand aren't going on. They almost certainly are. The difference between a sceptic and one of these other guys is that the sceptic looks to understand using rigorous methods and not to jump to conclusions. It's possible to criticise someone's methods without saying everything they are trying to study is necessarily non-existent.

But the paranormal researchers would reject that claim skeptics make.  The researchers say that there really is testable, repeatable evidence and that these skeptics are just close minded.  They say these skeptics don't bother to fully research to discover that there really is actual evidence for these phenomena.  Therefore, any argument you come up with against the paranormal researchers and their findings won't work because any argument a skeptic would make I can make against the skeptics just like I have done in this very post.

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You're either too lazy or not applying your mind properly. Research has been done into paranormal/supernatural, if you're not even interested then why jump to conclusions? You take these shortcuts yourself.

How can you claim to not be interested in doing the research then claim people took shortcuts? You really try your best to be special. You'e just ignorant. I would say you're actually trapped in a box intellectually. All your forum posts and threads prove so.

If the skeptics really have done full research, then I have no way of knowing if the conclusion they have drawn was correct.  I mean, you can do full research into something, but still draw the wrong conclusion.  I, myself, would have to do full research to draw my own conclusion.  But, like I said, I have no interest in this research. I can only hope that the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die without actually knowing one way or the other whether the afterlife and paranormal are real phenomena or not.

But your thread is about skeptics jumping to conclusions. Not about how you're too dumb to comprehend the available research, or lazy to actually do any research about the example you gave.

So I conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Succubus]

Is this the only tune you can sing? The PEAR institute spent 28 years and millions of dollars and found precisely..... Fuckall!

Here again, you are using a shortcut to conclude that the paranormal is all bullshit.  But there is much more research out there to keep an open mind to such as the research conducted by Dean Radin.

Dean Radin? Fuck off.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Here again, you are using a shortcut to conclude that the paranormal is all bullshit.  But there is much more research out there to keep an open mind to such as the research conducted by Dean Radin.

Dean Radin? Fuck off.

Dean Radin is a well known paranormal researcher and he has done plenty of research.

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But the paranormal researchers would reject that claim skeptics make.  The researchers say that there really is testable, repeatable evidence and that these skeptics are just close minded.  They say these skeptics don't bother to fully research to discover that there really is actual evidence for these phenomena.  Therefore, any argument you come up with against the paranormal researchers and their findings won't work because any argument a skeptic would make I can make against the skeptics just like I have done in this very post.

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If the skeptics really have done full research, then I have no way of knowing if the conclusion they have drawn was correct.  I mean, you can do full research into something, but still draw the wrong conclusion.  I, myself, would have to do full research to draw my own conclusion.  But, like I said, I have no interest in this research.  I can only hope that the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die without actually knowing one way or the other whether the afterlife and paranormal are real phenomena or not.

But your thread is about skeptics jumping to conclusions. Not about how you're too dumb to comprehend the available research, or lazy to actually do any research about the example you gave.

So I conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about.

As for my laziness, I tend to have a one track mind where my mind is only dedicated to one thing and nothing else matters to me.  The subject I wish to learn is how to compose.  Therefore, I will become very smart in this subject, but continue to remain dumb in all other subjects and in all areas of life since I have no interest in learning these things. I have no interest in anything else other than my own goals, desires, yearnings, and passions. I live a hedonistic lifestyle because, for me, my positive emotions are the only things that make my life and composing something good, beautiful, and worth living for. Me being happy and enjoying my life and hobbies is what gives my life value and I hope that there is an eternal blissful afterlife for me to be happy all I want to. Sadly, positive emotions are very fleeting things here in this Earthly life which is all the more reason why I really hope the blissful afterlife of my dreams exists for me after I die.