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The existence of god
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(May 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm)Kit Wrote: I merely wonder what one chooses to decide that this "god" being exists.fulfilment of his promises for following him. Quote:My main concern is "is it something that can be shared with someone else in order for the belief to be upheld"?it can be but on a ver diminutive level. like trying to share what the grand canyon is to a blind person. we can share just enough for people to follow God's instruction to find their own 'viewing of the grand canyon.' Quote:My next concern is, if someone else agrees with your shared experience, is it due to an actual mutual experience or an immediate need for community?In truth we experience God differently because we are not all the same members of the body. for instance a hand does not experience a loose gravel road like a foot does. the eye does not expereince a symphony as the ear does. while the may share the experience the level in which it can be experienced will differ from person to person. Quote:I want to know how god can exists for some and not for others;parable of the wheat and weeds explains this: God plants a field of pure wheat,an the night his emeny plants in his same field tares, tares look just like wheat except the grain is black and inedible. one can not tell a tare from wheat while growing. it is at harvest time (judgement) that wheat and weed are determined. to answer your question directly "Why can God exist for some and not others?" Because not all of us are from God. not all of us are wheat. but again only Jesus can/will determine what is and is not 'wheat.' Quote:my experience is that those who seek with an open mind shall find. With an open mind, I can find anything; even the visible pink unicorn. You don't see it? Guess your faith is not strong enough.to the contrary... According Christ Himself only the smallest amount of faith is needed to summon God on His terms. The true problem is none of you douche bags will ever to take the time to identify God according to who HE says he is. You all have a picture of God and what God is and is supposed to do. and it is so wrong your God prevents you from seeing or ever getting to know the god of the bible. Quote:See. That's why the "faith" argument doesn't work.No. the faith arguement does not work because Jesus the Christ said it took very little faith "the faith of a child the faith of a mustard seed" to work. Quote:It can be argued to encompass anything. nope faith is not. hard heart and pride is why most of you will never know God. you demand God persent Himself the way you see him on his terms, but in reality what world leader would ever bend a knee to you and approach you on your terms? So then why demand God do the same? RE: The existence of god
May 4, 2018 at 12:03 am
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(May 3, 2018 at 2:13 am)FFaith Wrote:(May 3, 2018 at 1:36 am)Godscreated Wrote: Faith is always the answer. Have faith in the the pink unicorn and if that faith does not grow and causes you to grow then you have put your faith into something that does not exist. Those people need to be seen before and after to determine a change, if they are the same then their faith is false or put into something that doesn't exist. GC (May 3, 2018 at 2:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(May 3, 2018 at 1:36 am)Godscreated Wrote: Faith is always the answer. You are becoming less and less understandable by the day, I'm a Christian not an Muslim. And no one killed any child on a mountain, go away until you grow a brain. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Quote: Faith is always the answer. Have you seen a doctor lately? You're getting nuttier and nuttier as time goes by. These delusions can be treated. (May 4, 2018 at 12:03 am)Godscreated Wrote:(May 3, 2018 at 2:13 am)FFaith Wrote: Faith is always the answer? Going by your own beliefs, faith is never the answer, other than when it comes to Christianity. People have faith in plenty of things you don't accept. People claim to have meaningful relationships with fairies that have changed their lives for the better. Millions of non-Christians claim to have had great life changing experiences after joining any number of religions. That doesn't mean that those religions are correct. You need more than just experience to show that the religion is correct. Experience is only a small part of it. I understand that being Christian works for some people and helps them, and that's fine. Whatever works for you. "Faith is always the answer" still makes no sense though, because people can put their faith in a lot of things. An infinite amount of things, and Christianity is only one thing among those infinite amount of things. You have to be pretty lucky to put your faith into the right thing. (May 4, 2018 at 8:55 pm)FFaith Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 12:03 am)Godscreated Wrote: Those people need to be seen before and after to determine a change, if they are the same then their faith is false or put into something that doesn't exist. No luck concerning God, God calls us and we have the choice to answer or ignore. Yes faith is used in many things and every day, however the discussion was about God/religion and my response was to that and that alone. Like I said before if faith doesn't change a person then that faith is wasted on something that does not exist or the faith was not genuine to start with. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm)Kit Wrote: I merely wonder what one chooses to decide that this "god" being exists. If you want eternal life you must have an all-powerful God character to give it to your soul. It doesn't really matter who that God character is as long as he can put you up in some sort of heaven, paradise, or happy hunting ground. Yahweh doesn't promise anyone eternal life although he did say that if people ate from the tree of life they would get it. He put the tree of life off limits. So that's where the Yeshua character comes in. He isn't really God (Yahweh) but his son. So if anyone believes in him he will get eternal life. Uthman couldn't use Yahweh and he demoted Yeshua to just a prophet. So he had to create Allah as his all-powerful God. He needed a messenger to sell the idea and came up with crazy Mohammed. There's nothing really special about the idea of souls, eternal life, all powerful gods. It's a universal belief across all cultures and time periods. The details may vary a little bit but just about all cultures subscribe to it. You are a true atheist if you don't believe in eternal life or eternal punishment because you need a God to give it to you. |
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