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May 16, 2018 at 12:07 am
(April 29, 2018 at 10:14 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: The universe?
We have no ideal how big the universe is. So there is no basis to estimate how many stars there are in it. It could well be infinite.
Bold by me, question. How could the universe as made by the big bang be infinite, the amount of energy would have had a limit to start with or the whole process could not have taken place.
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May 16, 2018 at 12:51 am
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(May 16, 2018 at 12:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: (April 29, 2018 at 10:14 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: The universe?
We have no ideal how big the universe is. So there is no basis to estimate how many stars there are in it. It could well be infinite.
Bold by me, question. How could the universe as made by the big bang be infinite, the amount of energy would have had a limit to start with or the whole process could not have taken place.
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Why do you think the total energy could not also be infinite?
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May 16, 2018 at 2:22 am
(May 16, 2018 at 12:51 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 12:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: Bold by me, question. How could the universe as made by the big bang be infinite, the amount of energy would have had a limit to start with or the whole process could not have taken place.
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Why do you think the total energy could not also be infinite?
If there was infinite energy then the ball of matter could not have been, the infinite energy would have prevented this condition.
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May 16, 2018 at 4:00 am
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(May 16, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 12:51 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Why do you think the total energy could not also be infinite?
If there was infinite energy then the ball of matter could not have been, the infinite energy would have prevented this condition.
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There was no ball of matter. At the moment of Big Bang all what would later become matter were still undifferentiated positive energy. To the best of our current measurement, the total amount positive energy in the universe is exactly equal to the total amount of negative energy in the form of gravity, resulting In net energy of Big Bang being zero. The positive component of energy can be infinite, so long as it is exactly balanced by negative components of the same magnitude.
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RE: Total stars in Universe is rougly equal to the total number (ever) of human cells.
May 16, 2018 at 6:24 am
(April 29, 2018 at 10:39 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I have no idea how many stars are in the observable universe, but I'm pretty sure it's more than 50.
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Yeah, try 2000 and maybe even more.
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May 16, 2018 at 3:07 pm
(May 16, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 12:51 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Why do you think the total energy could not also be infinite?
If there was infinite energy then the ball of matter could not have been, the infinite energy would have prevented this condition.
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Of the 4,000 or so cosmologists who are actively publishing, can you cite anyone who supports your POV?
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May 16, 2018 at 4:45 pm
*known universe
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May 16, 2018 at 4:53 pm
I have read that in some inflationary models that the ratio of the observable Universe to the actual Universe in terms of diameter is the same as that of a proton to the observable Universe.
How many alien Worlds did Jesus have to die on?
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May 17, 2018 at 12:18 am
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(May 16, 2018 at 4:00 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: If there was infinite energy then the ball of matter could not have been, the infinite energy would have prevented this condition.
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There was no ball of matter. At the moment of Big Bang all what would later become matter were still undifferentiated positive energy. To the best of our current measurement, the total amount positive energy in the universe is exactly equal to the total amount of negative energy in the form of gravity, resulting In net energy of Big Bang being zero. The positive component of energy can be infinite, so long as it is exactly balanced by negative components of the same magnitude.
How can it be possible to have two infinite properties. Even if that were so it could not have been infinite since it was contained in one place.
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(May 16, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: If there was infinite energy then the ball of matter could not have been, the infinite energy would have prevented this condition.
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Of the 4,000 or so cosmologists who are actively publishing, can you cite anyone who supports your POV?
They do not say there was an infinite amount of energy.
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RE: Total stars in Universe is rougly equal to the total number (ever) of human cells.
May 17, 2018 at 2:55 am
(May 17, 2018 at 12:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: (May 16, 2018 at 4:00 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: There was no ball of matter. At the moment of Big Bang all what would later become matter were still undifferentiated positive energy. To the best of our current measurement, the total amount positive energy in the universe is exactly equal to the total amount of negative energy in the form of gravity, resulting In net energy of Big Bang being zero. The positive component of energy can be infinite, so long as it is exactly balanced by negative components of the same magnitude.
How can it be possible to have two infinite properties. Even if that were so it could not have been infinite since it was contained in one place.
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(May 16, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Of the 4,000 or so cosmologists who are actively publishing, can you cite anyone who supports your POV?
They do not say there was an infinite amount of energy.
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Why can it not have infinite properties?
You are not clear about the concept of the Big Bang. Big Bang is not about all the stuff in one place in space and then expanding out wards in space. If that were so, then it might seem difficult to imagine how an infinite amount of stuff in one place could expand outwards. Big bang is about matter and their precursors were already everywhere to start with, and then everywhere itself expanded. We only know the portion of everywhere we can observe was very small at the beginning, and pretty big now. But We do not know how much of everywhere there is beyond where we can observe. So we don’t know how Big the entire everywhere was before the Big Bang, we really do not know how Big the entire everywhere is now.
On the scenario about universe being infinite, space itself, or everywhere, started already being infinite. There was already precursor to matter everywhere in it. So even before the Big Bang there were already infinite amount of matter precursor distributed across infinite space. Then at the moment of Big Bang, either the entire infinite space, or a portion of it much larger than our currently observable space, we don’t know, radically expanded.
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