| Poll: How do you account for psychopaths? This poll is closed. |
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| I don’t believe God is responsible for our morality | 4 | 50.00% | |
| I don’t accept that psychopaths really exist | 0 | 0% | |
| Psychopaths are choosing to ignore their innate sense of right and wrong | 0 | 0% | |
| God mistakenly misses out psychopaths when granting morality | 0 | 0% | |
| It’s the psychopath’s fault they have no empathy | 2 | 25.00% | |
| It’s because of “the fall” | 0 | 0% | |
| Other | 2 | 25.00% | |
| Total | 8 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
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14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
Romans 2:14-16 God gets it wrong again. ![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg) 
Morality comes from the natural order of this world and how it works. Since this world was created by God with an ultimate plan in place, morality comes from Him in that sense.
I don't understand the psychopath question.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh   (May 22, 2018 at 5:16 pm)Hammy Wrote:(May 22, 2018 at 8:05 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Title: On a spreadsheet. Yeah, not falling for that one.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
May 22, 2018 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2018 at 7:29 pm by Angrboda.)
(May 22, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Morality comes from the natural order of this world and how it works. Since this world was created by God with an ultimate plan in place, morality comes from Him in that sense. So, what you're saying is that we don't need God in order to explain morality, right? (May 22, 2018 at 7:28 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 22, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Morality comes from the natural order of this world and how it works. Since this world was created by God with an ultimate plan in place, morality comes from Him in that sense. She seems, to me, to be saying that morality comes from the natural world, but the natural world comes from God, therefore ultimately morality comes from God  (May 22, 2018 at 2:41 pm)robvalue Wrote:According to the fairy tale when Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they bcame just as smart as Yahweh was about what's right and what's wrong behavior. So after that point Yahweh became irrelevant on moral issues. His option now is to either grant eternal life or to toss us into the lake of fire. And if you don't want to live forever he can't control you. No matter what happens to you it has already happened to countless other people. It's not like you're going to end up in a chair revolving around Saturn in one of its rings.(May 22, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Drich Wrote: We don't all belong to God. We are not all seeds of God.  RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
May 22, 2018 at 8:52 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2018 at 8:55 pm by robvalue.)
(May 22, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Morality comes from the natural order of this world and how it works. Since this world was created by God with an ultimate plan in place, morality comes from Him in that sense. Why does his plan involve some people being amoral? (May 22, 2018 at 3:15 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I still don't understand the motivation for "Hey, Theist!" threads. There's only a handful of theists on AF and what do you really care about what we think? I find the thought processes interesting. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (May 22, 2018 at 8:52 pm)robvalue Wrote:(May 22, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Morality comes from the natural order of this world and how it works. Since this world was created by God with an ultimate plan in place, morality comes from Him in that sense. Psychopaths don't have to be immoral. They have free will like everyone else.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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