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assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
#91
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
I think there is a very important distinction between assisted suicide for a person who has a terminal illness and one who has a treatable one.
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#92
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
Mental illnesses can be cured. I will prove it with my life and all symptoms will disappear entirely.
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#93
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
(June 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Mental illnesses can be cured. I will prove it with my life and all symptoms will disappear entirely.

Rule of thirds applies. 1/3 recover with no treatment, 1/3 recover with treatment (you), 1/3 never recover. This has been modified to the rule of 1/4 where the recover with treatment is modified into 2 categories. 

You also need to differentiate between endogenous (biologic)  vs exogenous (environmental) depression. And the two can be co-mingled.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#94
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
(June 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Mental illnesses can be cured. I will prove it with my life and all symptoms will disappear entirely.

Correction: they can be treated, not cured. You may lose the symptoms, and you can certainly learn to cope better with the stressful external factors, but there’s always a good chance that, if left unchecked, and given the right circumstances, they can recur. It’s kind of like cancer that way, except a bit less deadly. Just a reminder, I have been professionally diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder, depression, and OCD and have done a lot of reading in this area. The last two are in check and I’ve been learning to cope with the first for the last 28 years, but I’m not cured. If you really have it, you’re never really cured, but you can (usually) improve. To insist otherwise is ignorance bordering on hubris.
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#95
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
We'll see what happens. I have a seven year completely cured plan.

But I have to make sure to do the proper things in my plan. Or else, I Won't be at peace, and will also be well deserving of haunting afflictions if I don't carry out the my promises and vows to God.

I don't like the term recover - I guarantee I will be cured.
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#96
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
So what happens if you reach year eight (or any year after that) and it comes back?
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#97
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
(June 4, 2018 at 6:28 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So what happens if you reach year eight (or any year after that) and it comes back?

I will fight it again and will not remain defeated. Smile
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#98
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
(June 4, 2018 at 6:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 4, 2018 at 6:28 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So what happens if you reach year eight (or any year after that) and it comes back?

I will fight it again and will not remain defeated. Smile

Best of luck with that. To put in terms you might relate to, Mental illness is pretty much a permanent jihad. There may be moments of ceasefire (and long ones at that) but it’s not over until you’ve finally gone.
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#99
RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
We'll see what happens. I don't believe secular diagnosis of it nor the myth of what I am labeled with and this includes all people labelled with my label. I use their data to see what happened to my brain and help me cope on my way to recovery which is but a stepping ground to cure and even thriving well due to peace and tranquility after patience in afflictions. There is no reason for me to believe in their perception of it.
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RE: assisted suicide vs suicide prevention
(June 4, 2018 at 5:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I've encountered people who have. I know a doctor who just took anti-depressants for a few months, because of depression, finished his placement and is now a doctor. Has a family, lives a wonderful life, and doesn't have it now.

I've met friends who told me they were depressed but as it was taking long to see a Psychiatrist, they self-treated themselves with marijuana, and I see them doing well in university right before my eyes with no sign of depression at the moment.

I was offered anti-depressants by my doctor a long with the medications I didn't take them. I guarantee right now, there isn't an ounce of depression and its not coming back.

I don't know what it means really when you are doing well, to still be called mentally unwell.

I suspect this is a misinterpretation on their part.

Depression, from my experience, can be managed and controlled, not cured. It's always with you.

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