Why believe the bible?

[Minimalist]

Meanwhile, rather than allow an asshole to continue to derail the thread.....

As for the story of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection, Mark took the basic ideas from the Christ myth but dared to imagine how the crucifixion and resurrection of the Christ might have looked if played out as a historical event in Jerusalem, something the Christ myth resisted. Thus Mark’s story is best understood as a studied combination of Jesus traditions with the Christ myth. The combination enhanced Jesus’ importance as a historical figure by casting him as the son of God or the Christ and by working out an elaborate plot to link his fate to the history of Mark’s community. We may therefore call Mark’s gospel a myth of origin for the Markan community. It was imagined in order to understand how history could have gone the way it had and the Jesus movement still be right about its loyalties and views… We do not usually think of mythmaking as the achievement of a moment or the work of a single writer no matter how brilliant. But in Mark’s case we have an obvious fiction, masterly composed by someone who had to be doing his work at a desk as any author would. It was Mark’s fiction that soon became the accepted story of the way to imagine Jesus appearing in the world.

Burton Mack,  American Biblical Scholar

[Drich]

Let me break it down

Atheist Hate God, why He and christianity is unjust. how is christianity and God unjust? God demands christians kill all muslim nonbelievers. 

Book Chapter and verse?

There is non, but it does not matter that God never order the murder of the people he is being blamed for.

So who did murder those people? the king of england via pressure put on the church to santify what a greedy king and pope wanted. who gets the blame? god and christians.

I don't hate god because I think that god is fictional.
Now I do hate what the idea does to people. It makes what could otherwise be nice members of society into entitled arseholes who like to tell others what they can and can't do. It restricts advancements in science and generally makes life more sucky.

That's not God sport. That's how beta and omega's use the system to inact trivialities that give the weak power. Seriously think about this a moment. every time one of you blames god or the church for evil visited upon the gays or the dark ages or even try and blame misogyne on christianity I ask for book chapter and verse. meaning show me where God demands this behavior and I will concede God is evil.

Which NONE of you can EVER produce said scripture as that is not with in the structure of CHristianity. Ultimately the 'command' always boils down to a one or two man sub structures with in the church acting often times in direct conflict of one of God's commands, that a whole bunch of beta and omegas who seek power through the authority of god to oppress their fellow man get behind...

But here's the thing. It's not a church condition. Meaning this is not a christian or religion only condition. This is a beta and omega condition which permeates throughout all of society. so even in your douche bag leftists circles you still see this wicked behavior where some powerless douche who usually hides themselves away (aka an ok person who lives and let lives only because they do not have the authority on their own to disrupt people) are now seen persecuting people in the very same way.. just people who leftist say it is ok to persecute.. meaning The fats, or religious, or anyone they deem racist or intolerant basically anyone who does not fit the very tight and exclusive label as a 'modern progressive' can be targeted and the lower down on the list violence can even be excused.

(example: the people who beat the hell out of the trump supporters, or even the CELEBRITIES who claimed to want an audience with trump to murder him and his family. to blow up the white house ect..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOGrDj330YM

Now that these nasty people are finally abandoning the church you will see them swell your ranks, what will the self righteous among you do when all these nasty people come home to you and your little social structures?

[Minimalist]

How can you be drunk so early in the day?

[The Grand Nudger]

Hey, at least he;s not trying to blame his own general asshattery on some stupid fucking god.  That;s something!

[LastPoet]

That was quite the read indeed. Is it just me or Drich has been more revenously batshit as of late? I mean, above the norm.

Don't worry Drich. Its not AIDS. God already saved you from that. Monetary problems? He has saved you too from that, remember?

Yep, he's going off the hinges. I will sot back and enjoy.

[Fake Messiah]

OK I tried to decipher what Drich is trying to say. You know you really wonder if Drich had actually something to say but could not express it because he doesn't know grammar even to save his own life or the other possibility that he doesn't have anything to say and is just typing gibberish.

He starts by saying that there are no evil parts in the Bible (like against women and gays) but if there were he would leave Christianity but according to him there aren't. But then he admits that there are bad and false Christianities which interpret Bible wrongly and therefore follow wrong Jesus and then he finishes with explaining that Trump's Jesus is the one true Jesus and that there are bad leftists that attack Trump who is all about love described in the Bible by Jesus.

[Succubus]

LastPoet That was quite the read indeed. Is it just me or Drich has been more revenously batshit as of late? I mean, above the norm.

No it's not just you, his decent into cuckoo land has been remarked upon a few times over this last week or so. He would/could? benefit greatly from a week off and have a word with himself.
I'm familiar with Drich from some years back in another forum and he was perfectly lucid and quite knowledgeable in his field. Where did it go wrong?

Only fundie religion can fuck up a perfectly decent mind this way.

[Fake Messiah]

every time one of you blames god or the church for evil visited upon the gays or the dark ages or even try and blame misogyne on christianity I ask for book chapter and verse. meaning show me where God demands this behavior and I will concede God is evil.

Which NONE of you can EVER produce

It's really a no-brainer to see that God really hates women. God could invent no more demeaning insults than to compare a nation or city to a woman—and, to make the insult even nastier, a menstruating woman. And to really top it off, a "whore."
They have no rights to property. They are constantly being bought as wives and raped for something men did. They can't hold any position (like being a priest or in politics). They are described by Bible to be filthy. etc.

But I don't doubt that you could not "justify" it to show how god is doing all that for "love" because even men who beat women say that do it for love; even priests that rape boys say they do it for Christian love, like in that documentary "Maxima Culpa" we see a priest justifying himself that he raped boys because they would otherwise masturbate and that is a sin while molesting them is not.

So I don't doubt that you would not defend him since you yourself are a battered victim who has been coerced to defend that bully god and that will not sound convincing to anyone sane because you can't defend an evil schmuck, but you can only make yourself look bad.

[downbeatplumb]

That's not God sport. That's how beta and omega's use the system to inact trivialities that give the weak power. Seriously think about this a moment. every time one of you blames god or the church for evil visited upon the gays or the dark ages or even try and blame misogyne on christianity I ask for book chapter and verse. meaning show me where God demands this behavior and I will concede God is evil.

I don't blame god for anything because I think that god is fictional.

The bible was written by stupid people with different prejudices and is so vague and contradictory that you can use it to justify any prejudice you already have.

Or support nice things. But mainly its the evil stuff that people take onboard.

The hating gays bit is right next to the never have tattoos bit but how many Christians hate the gays but have tattoos?

Which NONE of you can EVER produce said scripture as that is not with in the structure of CHristianity. Ultimately the 'command' always boils down to a one or two man sub structures with in the church acting often times in direct conflict of one of God's commands, that a whole bunch of beta and omegas who seek power through the authority of god to oppress their fellow man get behind...

The evil stuff in the bible is clear but you have decided it isn't there and try to explain it all away, failing each time.

But here's the thing. It's not a church condition. Meaning this is not a christian or religion only condition. This is a beta and omega condition which permeates throughout all of society. so even in your douche bag leftists circles you still see this wicked behavior where some powerless douche who usually hides themselves away (aka an ok person who lives and let lives only because they do not have the authority on their own to disrupt people) are now seen persecuting people in the very same way.. just people who leftist say it is ok to persecute.. meaning The fats, or religious, or anyone they deem racist or intolerant basically anyone who does not fit the very tight and exclusive label as a 'modern progressive' can be targeted and the lower down on the list violence can even be excused.

Why is Christianity associated with the right wing in the US? In the Uk Christianity is regarded as left wing.

(example: the people who beat the hell out of the trump supporters, or even the CELEBRITIES who claimed to want an audience with trump to murder him and his family. to blow up the white house ect..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOGrDj330YM

Now that these nasty people are finally abandoning the church you will see them swell your ranks, what will the self righteous among you do when all these nasty people come home to you and your little social structures?

The Christians are the "nasty people" in the US did you not know this?

[purplepurpose]

Drich likes to be a badass by torturing his mind with hell idea. You can easily respect the level of self sacrifice theists make to earn potential supernatural currency.

But the flip sides as easily enrages when they want to reprogramm/brainwash people in to their worldview using lies and psychology tricks while saying that they are "helping/curing" people.