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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 11, 2018 at 10:50 pm
Meanwhile, rather than allow an asshole to continue to derail the thread.....
Quote:As for the story of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection, Mark took the basic ideas from the Christ myth but dared to imagine how the crucifixion and resurrection of the Christ might have looked if played out as a historical event in Jerusalem, something the Christ myth resisted. Thus Mark’s story is best understood as a studied combination of Jesus traditions with the Christ myth. The combination enhanced Jesus’ importance as a historical figure by casting him as the son of God or the Christ and by working out an elaborate plot to link his fate to the history of Mark’s community. We may therefore call Mark’s gospel a myth of origin for the Markan community. It was imagined in order to understand how history could have gone the way it had and the Jesus movement still be right about its loyalties and views… We do not usually think of mythmaking as the achievement of a moment or the work of a single writer no matter how brilliant. But in Mark’s case we have an obvious fiction, masterly composed by someone who had to be doing his work at a desk as any author would. It was Mark’s fiction that soon became the accepted story of the way to imagine Jesus appearing in the world.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 4:12 pm
How can you be drunk so early in the day?
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 4:28 pm
Hey, at least he;s not trying to blame his own general asshattery on some stupid fucking god. That;s something!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 4:45 pm
That was quite the read indeed. Is it just me or Drich has been more revenously batshit as of late? I mean, above the norm.
Don't worry Drich. Its not AIDS. God already saved you from that. Monetary problems? He has saved you too from that, remember?
Yep, he's going off the hinges. I will sot back and enjoy.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 5:46 pm
OK I tried to decipher what Drich is trying to say. You know you really wonder if Drich had actually something to say but could not express it because he doesn't know grammar even to save his own life or the other possibility that he doesn't have anything to say and is just typing gibberish.
He starts by saying that there are no evil parts in the Bible (like against women and gays) but if there were he would leave Christianity but according to him there aren't. But then he admits that there are bad and false Christianities which interpret Bible wrongly and therefore follow wrong Jesus and then he finishes with explaining that Trump's Jesus is the one true Jesus and that there are bad leftists that attack Trump who is all about love described in the Bible by Jesus.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 5:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2018 at 5:56 pm by Succubus.
Edit Reason: Edit to make it more proper but fucked it even more.
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LastPoet That was quite the read indeed. Is it just me or Drich has been more revenously batshit as of late? I mean, above the norm.
No it's not just you, his decent into cuckoo land has been remarked upon a few times over this last week or so. He would/could? benefit greatly from a week off and have a word with himself.
I'm familiar with Drich from some years back in another forum and he was perfectly lucid and quite knowledgeable in his field. Where did it go wrong?
Only fundie religion can fuck up a perfectly decent mind this way.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 13, 2018 at 6:28 pm
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(July 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Drich Wrote: every time one of you blames god or the church for evil visited upon the gays or the dark ages or even try and blame misogyne on christianity I ask for book chapter and verse. meaning show me where God demands this behavior and I will concede God is evil.
Which NONE of you can EVER produce
It's really a no-brainer to see that God really hates women. God could invent no more demeaning insults than to compare a nation or city to a woman—and, to make the insult even nastier, a menstruating woman. And to really top it off, a "whore."
They have no rights to property. They are constantly being bought as wives and raped for something men did. They can't hold any position (like being a priest or in politics). They are described by Bible to be filthy. etc.
But I don't doubt that you could not "justify" it to show how god is doing all that for "love" because even men who beat women say that do it for love; even priests that rape boys say they do it for Christian love, like in that documentary "Maxima Culpa" we see a priest justifying himself that he raped boys because they would otherwise masturbate and that is a sin while molesting them is not.
So I don't doubt that you would not defend him since you yourself are a battered victim who has been coerced to defend that bully god and that will not sound convincing to anyone sane because you can't defend an evil schmuck, but you can only make yourself look bad.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 14, 2018 at 5:18 am
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
July 14, 2018 at 5:45 am
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Drich likes to be a badass by torturing his mind with hell idea. You can easily respect the level of self sacrifice theists make to earn potential supernatural currency.
But the flip sides as easily enrages when they want to reprogramm/brainwash people in to their worldview using lies and psychology tricks while saying that they are "helping/curing" people.
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