DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Ravenshire]

The troll will wait until everyone else is bored and he's got two or three consecutive posts that have gone ubanswered, then he'll use links to this thread as evidence that he defeated the evil atheists.

All the other pigeons will ignore the scattered pieces and shit splatters and be impressed.

[The Valkyrie]

How have you all been? Have you come to see the truth of design?

No, I've been physically and emotionally well, therefore I still think creationism is a claim with no supporting evidence and promoted and believed by those with truly weak minds.

[Minimalist]

How have you all been?  Have you come to see the truth of design?

Yep.  You're a dumb fuck.  But I figured that out on page 1.

[Succubus]

Looks like the troll ran away.

He's likely to back now though.

[sdelsolray]

Yes, "Be careful what I wish for". Actually, CDF47 was somewhat entertaining, until he wasn't.

[Nay_Sayer]

This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

• How have you all been?  Have you come to see the truth of design?
  

!fact!  The U.S. Government spent $277,000 on pickle research in 1993

[Joods]

Yes, "Be careful what I wish for".  Actually, CDF47 was somewhat entertaining, until he wasn't.

He was never entertaining. He was pathetic and his attempts to woo us to the dark side, failed miserably.

[robvalue]

One thing I realized about the "design" argument is that it seems to require hard determinism, in a very strange way.

Let's say Mr. God wanted to have humans, for some reason. He could have just made them instantly, but if you have even a vague interest in reality, you know that didn't happen. Instead he hatched an extremely long winded plan for us to end up here. He set in motion some ridiculously long chain of events so that we would evolve. That's stupid for so many reasons, but I'll leave that aside for now.

If there was any kind of randomness or agency possible in our (sub)reality, then there would be no guarantee that humans would actually have evolved like we did. In fact, it would seem extremely unlikely, since the tiniest change could throw the whole plan off at almost any stage. So if humans were the goal, then there must have been hard determinism at work, it would seem. Otherwise there was every chance that the "plan" would fail.

Of course, any numb-nuts definition of "God" that includes it knowing the future also implies hard determinism. You can't predict the unpredictable. Knowing the future means there only is one possible future.

[CDF47]

The unique crystaline structure of a simple snowflake is so geometrically perfect, that it obviously has to be man made!

It's sent by God.  He created everything.

[The Valkyrie]

Necromancy is bad!