‘Nothing short of treasonous’

[Brian37]

HEY DUMBFUCK, YES WE HATE BAD LOGIC! 

Dan Coats said on Friday, confirming what 12 indictments handed down by Mueller,  AND COUNTING, indictments made by REPUBLICAN INTEL, that Russia did interfere! DAN COATS, along with Mueller A FUCKING REPUBLICAN APPOINTEE. 

We agree, voters have a short memory. Which is why they forget Trump said, "Build that wall" when Reagan said "Tear down that wall".

Oh no, while I will admit dems gave up after Reagan busted the air traffic control unions, and our voters have lacked participation in every election, that has changed. 

If you want to know what hyper nationalism and propaganda look like, study the rhetoric of both Stalin and Hitler. Then read 1984 and Animal Farm.

Trump isn't defending America, he is re living his childhood fear of his daddy rejecting him. His daddy was a bully and an authoritarian, so when he looks around as a businessman, he not only takes that bully approach and "fuck you I got mine" to business, he looks ad Putin and Un as "competitors" not enemies.

HEY FUCKWIT! WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT LOGIC?! NOTHING! THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW!

Well it's good that Trump sees Chi, Putin, and Un as competitors. When he fucks them over it won't be a reckless knee jerk reaction over something personal. It'll be strictly business.

No you stupid FUCK.

There is a HUGE difference between a friendly competitor and an enemy who doesn't just want to beat you in business, but destroy your entire government.

Putin and Un are not like the Redskins vs The Cowboys, Putin and Un are like Hitler and Stalin.

[Amarok]

Tyrants abhor competitors and generally deal with them in brutal fashion

[Brian37]

You know who makes friends with people just to fuck them over: psychopaths.

BINGO, And outside this century worldwide,in our species ENTIRE history,  unfortunately you have more Putins, Bibis, and Trumps ending up in power more than you do Martin Luther King Jrs, Obamas or Malalas.

Our species has a horrible tendency, when we feel threatened, to look to a bully rather than a diplomat.

[A Theist]

You said it before. Voters have short memories. Give this a couple of weeks and you haters will be searching for something else to screech about because this will all fizzle out and be forgotten.

And I have no doubt the stupid fuck will supply an unending stream of such disasters.  In case you haven't noticed your boyfriend/fuhrer has lost his fucking mind and gone over the edge.

...and the left will continue to have shit hemorrhage meltdowns and any complaints they may have will be overshadowed by their own unhinged hysterical screeching.

[Amarok]

and the left will continue to have shit hemorrhage meltdowns and any complaints they may have will be overshadowed by their own unhinged hysterical screeching.

Nope but dumb asses like you and all the  morons like you will keep lying for and excusing his countless  fuck ups while hes's  running America into the ground. Because not one of you has any balls or a spine you handed in both when you elected him .

[Brian37]

And I have no doubt the stupid fuck will supply an unending stream of such disasters.  In case you haven't noticed your boyfriend/fuhrer has lost his fucking mind and gone over the edge.

...and the left will continue to have shit hemorrhage meltdowns and  any complaints they may have will be overshadowed by their own unhinged hysterical screeching.

I love how you morons use "the left" as a slur, while supporting a jackass with a dictator's dick up his ass. You know who else hates political rivals and a free press? Putin and Un.

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If you still support President Shithole after he said that sharing intel with a product of Stalin's USSR, Putin, calling it an "incredible offer",, you have lost all credibility.

[John V]

HEY DUMBFUCK, YES WE HATE BAD LOGIC! 

You never did explain your logic on majorities and slavery...

[Amarok]

You never did explain your logic on majorities and slavery...

Why would he need too rrelevant point really

But if you must know are you arguing that at no point was pro slavery the majority position in the American colonies ?

And even after the North abolished slavery you honestly think the whole populous were pro abolitionist right from the get go ?

[Divinity]

If Obama did what Trump did, the same people defending Trump would be calling for Obama to be lynched on the white house lawn. And you fucking know it. They fucking know it too.

[Mister Agenda]

Yeah, the party in power when we overthrew the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan was in the wrong, I'll admit it. The role we played in Libya under a different administration was also a mistake, which was my opinion at the time as well. What Russia is doing to us, we shouldn't do to other countries. It's not okay.

Clarify your post MA. Not sure what you mean by this.

But to me, Afghanistan was wrong in that we could have easily without blowing our budget did what Obama finally did. But even with that we got sucker punched with 9/11 and sorry, you punch me I am coming after you.

Iraq I totally agree, that was a disaster.

But as far as trying equate our spying on even the USSR when it was around, vs their spying on us back then, it still does not change for me, that I do not want to live under tyranny, and the Baltic states that finally broke free when THE USSR a couple have been taken back by Putin, and others are whom are still our allies are very nervous that they are going to get sucked back into the old ways. And Merkel, who lived it doesn't want Putin on his border, and I don't blame her.

I think it is wrong to make global politics always isolationism or always expansion.

I'm sure you meant: Please clarify your post, MA.

Afghanistan did not attack the USA on 9/11. It was Al Qaeda terrorists. By nationality, the hijackers were mostly Saudis and IIRC, none were Afghanis. Although the Afghani government wasn't inclined to let US forces run around their country to apprehend the orchestrator of the attack (also not an Afghani), a whole-scale invasion was unwarranted, and Osama bin Laden was finally captured with the borders of our 'ally', Pakistan, no invasion necessary. But it was a different administration who managed that.

Our adventures in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya destabilized the region (further) and played a significant role in the formation and equipping of ISIS, which exacerbated the situation in Syria, although that country was headed for trouble anyway.

I'm not talking about routine spying, I'm talking about cyber-espionage and propaganda offensives aimed at influencing the outcome of elections. The Russians shouldn't do it, and neither should we. IMHO.

I hope that clarifies my position, sorry for not being more clear in the first place.