‘Nothing short of treasonous’

[Brian37]

If majorities were always right we'd still have slavery.

First, no claim was made that majorities are always right. The claim regarded who currently has a problem.

Second, uh, how do you figure that? In this country, at the beginning of the civil war, non-slave states had roughly double the population of slave states.

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Then said group is corrupt and stupid and we have no use for them

OK. The right will continue to make progress with the middle, and you guys can enjoy your echo chamber.

Oh yea you got me, when all the intel agencies said THEY KNOW Russia interfered, Trump used the word "think" not "I know" while in front of Putin. Yep all that intel was wrong, or at a minimum questionable to Trump. That bullshit walk back yesterday was not misspeaking, when you take into account years of ignoring and attacking the MAJORITY of our intel.


Chris Wallace  A FOX reporter, tried to hand the 12 indictments to Putin in Finland. Now that is a REPUBLICAN supporter. How is it a REPUBLICAN REPORTER on a REPUBLICAN network can do what 45 refused to do?

45 is no Kennedy or Reagan. You are fooling yourself if you think he is. 

45 attacked May and Merkel and NATO and the EU then in front of our allies sucked a dictators dick. Trump, "Build that wall", Reagan, "Tear down that wall".

Chris Wallace A FOX REPORTER, tried to hand Putin the 12 indictments. Putin refused to touch it, much like a perp being interviewed in a murder investigation refuses to leave their DNA on a cup or cigarette offered to them by the detectives.

[LadyForCamus]

It will but I can't see it changing any minds of people who already hate him.  I, for example, could not despise the motherfucker more than I already did.  But it will be a bit of a problem for these flag-waving scumbags who think football players kneeling is a disgrace but now have to reconcile that with the image of their fucking Orange Turd-hero sucking Putin's cock in public.

It won't change the minds of that group either. That's why I noted the middle must accept it as true. The left apparently doesn't think that's the case.

This is your problem, pal.

POTUS, Senate, House, SCOTUS. 26 red state trifectas vs. 8 blue.

No, I think you're the one with the problem.

Yep. It’s a good day for rich, white dudes; amma’ right? 😉


Oh, sorry. Rich, white, Christian dudes.

[John V]

@Bryan:

Countries spy on each other. Countries interfere in each other's elections. This was true before Trump, and will be true after him.

Hell, the US invaded a sovereign country and replaced its government based on faulty intelligence regarding WMDs. Compare that to fake news from bots and a hacked server, and the left's outrage looks like nothing but sour grapes over a lost election - which it is.

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Yep. It’s a good day for rich, white dudes; amma’ right? 😉


Oh, sorry.  Rich, white, Christian dudes.

Considering stats like unemployment and economic optimism, it's a good day for a lot of people.

[Brian37]

@Bryan:

Countries spy on each other. Countries interfere in each other's elections. This was true before Trump, and will be true after him.

Hell, the US invaded a sovereign country and replaced its government based on faulty intelligence regarding WMDs. Compare that to fake news from bots and a hacked server, and the left's outrage looks like nothing but sour grapes over a lost election - which it is.

NO SHIT you don't say?

How the fuck does saying we both spy on each other change the fact that PUTIN IS A PRODUCT OF STALIN'S RUSSIA?

The goal isn't to kiss ass, the goal is to do what Reagan did. 

And what the fuck makes you think I like everything we do? It isn't a matter of isolationism or colonialism. 

Have you ever personally spoken to those whom escaped oppression or currently live in it? I HAVE. I have personally talked to holocaust survivors, I have, and we have a Muslim here that still currently lives under a bad government. I've talked to Iranians who hate their government. No, that was not as a reporter, but it was on line over my on line history and or in person in a non working environment. 

And again, having interned in TV and worked in radio, you are going to get a "fuck you" from me if you attack the free press as a western world leader. Merkel lived in fear of Soviet rule, Reagan ended Soviet rule, Putin wants to go back to that. Trump shit on Merkel then went on to kiss Putin's ass. 

There is a way to foster peace, and a way not to, there is a way to deal with your enemies and a way not to. 

What Chris Wallace did  A FOX REPORTER, is what Trump should have done.

[John V]

There is a way to foster peace, and a way not to, there is a way to deal with your enemies and a way not to. 

Yep, and Trump's approach is to stand up to them with his actions, but to be nice to them in press conferences. I have no problem with that.

[Brian37]

@Bryan:

Countries spy on each other. Countries interfere in each other's elections. This was true before Trump, and will be true after him.

Hell, the US invaded a sovereign country and replaced its government based on faulty intelligence regarding WMDs. Compare that to fake news from bots and a hacked server, and the left's outrage looks like nothing but sour grapes over a lost election - which it is.

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Yep. It’s a good day for rich, white dudes; amma’ right? 😉


Oh, sorry.  Rich, white, Christian dudes.

Considering stats like unemployment and economic optimism, it's a good day for a lot of people.

Damn you are one short sighted gullible fool.

Bubble economies created by long term debt caused by funding tax breaks for billionaires that swamp the crumbs thrown at the rest of us, is only a short term feel good that ends in a BUBBLE.

GOP economics are the same policies that lead to the Great depression, that lead to the 88 crash under Reagan, the dot com bubble under Clinton, and the triple whammy housing/car/bank crash under BUSH JR.

Your economic view is like an alcoholic after a doctor tells them, "You keep doing that you'll die from cirrhosis of the liver."

[Mister Agenda]

Yeah, the party in power when we overthrew the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan was in the wrong, I'll admit it. The role we played in Libya under a different administration was also a mistake, which was my opinion at the time as well. What Russia is doing to us, we shouldn't do to other countries. It's not okay.

[Brian37]

Yeah, the party in power when we overthrew the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan was in the wrong, I'll admit it. The role we played in Libya under a different administration was also a mistake, which was my opinion at the time as well. What Russia is doing to us, we shouldn't do to other countries. It's not okay.

Clarify your post MA. Not sure what you mean by this.

But to me, Afghanistan was wrong in that we could have easily without blowing our budget did what Obama finally did. But even with that we got sucker punched with 9/11 and sorry, you punch me I am coming after you.

Iraq I totally agree, that was a disaster.

But as far as trying equate our spying on even the USSR when it was around, vs their spying on us back then, it still does not change for me, that I do not want to live under tyranny, and the Baltic states that finally broke free when THE USSR a couple have been taken back by Putin, and others are whom are still our allies are very nervous that they are going to get sucked back into the old ways. And Merkel, who lived it doesn't want Putin on his border, and I don't blame her.

I think it is wrong to make global politics always isolationism or always expansion.

[Brian37]

There is a way to foster peace, and a way not to, there is a way to deal with your enemies and a way not to. 

Yep, and Trump's approach is to stand up to them with his actions, but to be nice to them in press conferences. I have no problem with that.

You DO NOT DO THAT, by being half assed IN PUBLIC standing next to a DICTATOR, and waffle on what your intel says. The word used by intel is "KNOW' Trump used the word "think". Watch the entire summit and don't simply cherry pick that one word he didn't put in. 

Even his walk back the next day was half assed. And just again today he tried to claim Russia stopped.  GET A CLUE, Putin is a KGB THUG, HE WILL NEVER STOP.

This is worse than Bush Jr claiming "mission accomplished".  Dan Coats said "We know they are" BEFORE FINLAND, Trump claimed, STANDING NEXT TO PUTING, "Dan thinks"....... and that is on top of other intel agencies SAYING THEY DID.



45 pulled the same fucking shit with North Korea, "They are no longer a danger" only to have his own intel say, "NO THEY ARE STILL UPING THEIR NUKES"

You are so fucking blind. CHRIS WALLACE A FOX REPORTER stood up to Putin, NOT TRUMP!




Trump's own NI DIRECTOR said that Russia will try to interfere again. Today Trump claimed they have stopped. IT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.

[Amarok]

If majorities were always right we'd still have slavery.

First, no claim was made that majorities are always right. The claim regarded who currently has a problem.

Second, uh, how do you figure that? In this country, at the beginning of the civil war, non-slave states had roughly double the population of slave states.

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Then said group is corrupt and stupid and we have no use for them

OK. The right will continue to make progress with the middle, and you guys can enjoy your echo chamber.

And you can continue with the corrupt stupid mob and call it "progress" .Enjoy that "victory" i wouldn't be able to .

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Yep, and Trump's approach is to stand up to them with his actions, but to be nice to them in press conferences. I have no problem with that.

Then your just as two faced as he is.And no Trump does not stand up to Putin he kisses him boots because he's a shill.

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Countries spy on each other. Countries interfere in each other's elections. This was true before Trump, and will be true after him.

Which does not mean there was no collusion 

Hell, the US invaded a sovereign country and replaced its government based on faulty intelligence regarding WMDs.

Which does not mean there was no collusion 

Compare that to fake news from bots and a hacked server,

Which does not mean there was no collusion 

 and the left's outrage looks like nothing but sour grapes over a lost election - which it is.

A complete bullshit excuse to dismiss the issue

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Considering stats like unemployment and economic optimism, it's a good day for a lot of people.

All illusions smoke and mirrors the US economy is still shit .

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First, no claim was made that majorities are always right. The claim regarded who currently has a problem.

That would still be you on so many levels as your comments clearly show .