When is a Religious Belief Delusional?

[Mystic]

O man, Neo, you gave them enough hits for one day.

Let them digest it for now!

[Angrboda]

Mathematical realism fares no better as it is well recognized that the ontology of numbers and morals is significantly unlike the ontology of existents like this desk, or a supposed god, thus unless you can reconcile those differences, your argument to analogy fails.  

And therein lies the rub. Despite how many time believers tell you that we do not define God as just one more thing in a world of things, you still try to compare God to all manner of contingent things, like desks and invisible dragons. So yes, my analogy holds perfectly fine. One type of immaterial object, a mathematical one, with another immaterial object, a Prime Mover/Necessary Being/Etc.

Mathematical truths aren't objects. Numbers aren't objects. Your own words betray you.

[Amarok]

O man, Neo, you gave them enough hits for one day.

Let them digest it for now!

No he just hit himself over and over again which explains the nonsense he spews 

And sorry we don't eat shit

[Anomalocaris]

O man, Neo, you gave them enough hits for one day.

Let them digest it for now!

You realize your respective jobs is to kill eachother, right?

[Neo-Scholastic]

And therein lies the rub. Despite how many time believers tell you that we do not define God as just one more thing in a world of things, you still try to compare God to all manner of contingent things, like desks and invisible dragons. So yes, my analogy holds perfectly fine. One type of immaterial object, a mathematical one, with another immaterial object, a Prime Mover/Necessary Being/Etc.

Mathematical truths aren't objects. Numbers aren't objects. Your own words betray you.

I don't care if you reject the notion of objects of intellect. To me that is a matter of opinion and cause for debate. What I really want to know is if you think people who believe in mathematical objects are delusional.

[chimp3]

RN here. The definition of delusion clinically is a fixed, irrational idea that is not shared by others. 

 "I am Harry Truman!" is an example of a delusion that I witnessed a person experiencing.

 " Jesus is King" is just a belief that millions share. 

I am trying to do mentally ill people a service by not associating their disease process to the bullshit perpetuated by religious people.

There is no restriction on delusions that they cannot be shared with others: (from Marriam-Webster)

Definition of delusion

1 a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated

• under the delusion that they will finish on schedule
  

• delusions of grandeur
  

b psychology : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary

• the delusion that someone was out to hurt him
  

; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

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Does this apply to religions? At the very least, it applies to beliefs in supernatural deities that affect day-to-day lives of people. Combined with the confabulation (called apologetics) that is typical of religion (and delusions), it is hard to see a way that most religions are NOT delusional.

As I mentioned, antipsychotics help with psychotic delusions. They have no effect on religious beliefs commonly held.

[Bob Kelso]

Mathematical truths aren't objects. Numbers aren't objects. Your own words betray you.

I don't care if you reject the notion of objects of intellect. To me that is a matter of opinion and cause for debate. What I really want to know is if you think people who believe in mathematical objects are delusional.

You’re really comparing mathematics to the concept of a deity? Really, Chad?

[Abaddon_ire]

nevertheless, there seems to be an overarching concept of human goodness that unites them all.

If by "unites them all" you mean only that the concept applies in all cases, perhaps there is.  That is a hypothesis that could be checked.

Yeah, "unites" the 30,000 odd denominations of christianity alone. That is one hell of a borked definition of "unity".

One might be forgiven (LOL) for thinking that an omni-everything deity would be able to transmit his/her/it's/housecat's message clearly, but no. The omni cockwomble is a total failure at communication.

My cat can communicate better than that and I don't even have a cat. This is how stupid the whole lot of theism is.

[Pat Mustard]

Here's the proof.  If there's a god he will surely strick me down with great fury and righteous anger 60 seconds after I call him a fucktard.

God's a fucktard.

Anyone heard from Wololo lately?

If anybody doubts my continued unsmittenness, they can comandeer a reasonably powerful spy satelliteand focusit on Drottningham Palace in a few hours. I'm visiting there today.

And Steve's god is still an (imaginary) fucktard.

[The Grand Nudger]

As I mentioned, antipsychotics help with psychotic delusions. They have no effect on religious beliefs commonly held.

Because the religious aren't actually hearing, seeing, or speaking to any god.  It's just a thing they say that makes them sound like schizophrenics.

Antipsychotics -do- work on the religiously inspired versions of the people they mimic in pious theater. The prevalence of those particular delusions - in the clinical sense- ranges..but it's generally high..in the us, it's estimated that half of sufferers have the experiences that rank and file religionists only dream and lie about. Oddly enough, it doesn't fill their lives with beauty, bounty, and the certain comfort of being in the lords good graces.

There's the reverse to the thread title -when is a delusional belief religious - the answer being "pretty damned often".