Ariana Grande being groped by a bishop in a church

[Huggy Bear]

You can't just post random pictures and expect people to consider them the end-all for racial identification. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Latina and Hispanic women don't consider them white, though I do concede that there are a few exceptions to the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hisp..._Americans

White Americans are therefore referenced as white Hispanics and non-Hispanic whites, the former consisting of white Americans who report Hispanophone identity (Spanish Hispanic Latin America), and the latter consisting of white Americans who do not report Hispanophone ancestry.

As of 2010, 50.5 million or 16.3% of Americans identified as Hispanic or Latino.  Of those, 26.7 million, or 53%, also self-identified as white

[Fireball]

You can't just post random pictures and expect people to consider them the end-all for racial identification. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Latina and Hispanic women don't consider them white, though I do concede that there are a few exceptions to the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hisp..._Americans

White Americans are therefore referenced as white Hispanics and non-Hispanic whites, the former consisting of white Americans who report Hispanophone identity (Spanish Hispanic Latin America), and the latter consisting of white Americans who do not report Hispanophone ancestry.

As of 2010, 50.5 million or 16.3% of Americans identified as Hispanic or Latino.  Of those, 26.7 million, or 53%, also self-identified as white

Which still has nothing to do with Ariana Grande being subjected to a titty pinch. Fuck, you are thick. Or-


I vote

[bennyboy]

Miss me with this thread, the only reason this is making the news, is because the guy is black...

Holy shit.

Bishop potentially abuses power ON LIVE CAMERA at the funeral of a black legend, whom Ariana Grande was singing into the forever after, and you've found a way to make that a white/black race thing?

No white people have ever been called out for sexually inappropriate conduct, right?  


Thank god these guys all got a free pass!

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He thought he was touching her waist.  Right.

Why touch her at all?

Boru

Well, he probably shouldn't have.
But why would he touch her tit on purpose and even give it a good squeeze if he knew everyone was watching?
Because he's a Bishop and all religious leaders are sexual perverts and think they can get away with it?
I don't think so, but that's just my opinion.

I also think it's going too far in the other direction to think he's been persecuted because he's black.

That's the thing I don't get, either.  I mean. . . if you're gonna grope someone, you gonna do it in front of a million cameras?  I'm kind of thinking he was star struck a little, or was just thinking "Don't trip on the mic cable.  Don't embarrass yourself.  Don't knock the podium over" and didn't actually realize that he was groping her.

But DAMN it looked so conspicuous.  I mean. . . it wasn't a sideways brush, it was a grab and squeeze, grab and squeeze.  It's just so hard to believe that he didn't know.  And. . . I mean, not to fat shame anyone else or anything, but Grande is a pretty slim girl-- if you're grabbing a handful of ANYTHING soft, you're an idiot if you don't immediately realize it's her breast.

[Minimalist]

As always, when it comes to be the Champion of Being Full of Shit, Huggy is right there.

Hey, could be worse.  She might have been a mormon.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/watch-m...nt-temple/

WATCH: Mormon rape victim calls out her alleged assailant in his own temple

In the video, Denson describes her attack in the church basement by church member Joseph L. Bishop only to be hustled from the lectern by another member of the church.

I'm sure they got a cable from Planet Kolob that said the slut had it coming.

[Seraphina]

Bishop certainly trapped her, so she doesn't have a choice

So, so very disgusting. I have little in common with a multi-millionaire pop star but I felt for her when I saw this piece of garbage feeling up her breast on national TV.

To those who say she should've punched or slapped him, that's very easy to say when you're looking on behind a computer or phone screen at a situation like this.  But when you're actually in it, it's pretty shocking and not easy to think straight or rationally in the moment. Speaking as someone who's been felt up by strangers when I least expected it.
She was in church at a goddamn funeral.
The onus is 100% on this guy to know the correct behavior, never mind what she should or shouldn't have done.

ETA: Ms. Grande's background is Italian. Doesn't change anything I said above.

-Teresa

[bennyboy]

I gotta say, this thread should have been 2 posts long: the OP, and then one person saying, "WTF was this guy even THINKING!?" and about 100 kudos for both /thread

[LadyForCamus]

I've seen plenty of white people in the news.  You haven't?

Not where it involves the 'me too' movement...

^^^

Huggy, these are your own words, you shit.  It’s a laughably incorrect claim. You are wrong. Accept it and move on.

[Huggy Bear]

Not where it involves the 'me too' movement...

^^^

Huggy, these are your own words, you shit.  It’s a laughably incorrect claim. You are wrong. Accept it and move on.

*Sigh*

Here we go...

You stated:

Your initial claim was that white men involved in the #metoo movement don’t make the news.

*emphasis mine*
Obviously you don't know what 'initial' means, so let me help you.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dict...sh/initial

initial
adjective

of or at the beginning; first:

Therefore my initial claim was:

Miss me with this thread, the only reason this is making the news, is because the guy is black...

This however

I've seen plenty of white people in the news.  You haven't?

Not where it involves the 'me too' movement...

Is not a claim, it's me answering personally to a subjective question that's based on my experience...

In other words, Show me any white guy making major headlines for touching some side boob, go ahead i'll wait...

Heck, I've even shown two white guys blatantly cupping breasts and get nothing but crickets.

The mere fact that you guys essentially brought up a white rapist in comparison to a black guy who touched a little side boob during a side hug, speaks volumes.

Yeah there is no disparity at all...

I mean Bennyboy has pretty much described rape and attempting to have sex with minors (from at least two people in his picture) as merely "sexually inappropriate conduct"; last I looked those were criminal offenses.

[Abaddon_ire]

That's a lie, My initial claim was that the only reason this is making HEADLINES is because the guy is black...

Harvey Weinstein is literally forcing women to have sex with him. This guy touched some side boob with his fingertips, yet somehow in YOUR mind they are at the same level...

But what do you care? I pretty much proved there was a racist agenda behind the Cosby case, with even a close friend of the accusers family stating as much... y'all cared nothing about that.

That is a lie. You simply are a victim of your own prejudice. You somehow think that clergy are deserving of subservience and grovel at their feet because you believe they are somehow holy and closer to "god" than you. Thus you drool on their shoes at all costs.

The pervy priest copped a feel. Deal with it. I have little time for priestly apologists. I have seen first hand the damage that they continue to do. And don't give me that crap about "it's only a small minority" because ALL of them covered it up intentionally. They are all complicit, and so are you.

[Huggy Bear]

That's a lie, My initial claim was that the only reason this is making HEADLINES is because the guy is black...

Harvey Weinstein is literally forcing women to have sex with him. This guy touched some side boob with his fingertips, yet somehow in YOUR mind they are at the same level...

But what do you care? I pretty much proved there was a racist agenda behind the Cosby case, with even a close friend of the accusers family stating as much... y'all cared nothing about that.

That is a lie. You simply are a victim of your own prejudice. You somehow think that clergy are deserving of subservience and grovel at their feet because you believe they are somehow holy and closer to "god" than you. Thus you drool on their shoes at all costs.

The pervy priest copped a feel. Deal with it. I have little time for priestly apologists. I have seen first hand the damage that they continue to do. And don't give me that crap about "it's only a small minority" because ALL of them covered it up intentionally. They are all complicit, and so are you.

First of all you Muppet, I don't even attend church on a regular basis, look at my avatar and see what it states under religious views...

Secondly, this has nothing to do with the guy being a priest, it could have been Flavor Flav and my position would have been the same.

It's funny how when I posted the video of the white guy who blatantly fondled Scarlett Johansson's breast, on the red carpet, which obviously caught her by surprise; but because she laughed it off you guys said she enjoyed it...

Yeah, calling bullshit on that one.  ScarJo is perfectly delighted to have her tit grabbed, Ms. Grande looks horribly uncomfortable.  If she had said to the bishop, 'Go ahead and grope me, it's fine', no one would give two steaming shits.

Boru

The above statement got a few kudos, all of which I am assuming to be in agreement.

So in the white guys case case it's enjoyment because the woman is laughing, but in the black guys case...

He knew what he was doing and did it anyway because he knew she wasn't going to disrupt the funeral because of his actions.

Well, you got to look at it from his perspective of a pervert: it was his only chance to feel her up so it's now or never.

He proceeded to stare at her, while undressing himself down to his boxers. In a busy public lot. In broad day light. Perverts don’t care, and for them, it’s always worth the risk of getting caught, LL. You honestly don’t think this preacher knew he could just pass it off as a slip of the hand? Well, people are defending him, so it worked, I guess. 🤔

To those who say she should've punched or slapped him, that's very easy to say when you're looking on behind a computer or phone screen at a situation like this. But when you're actually in it, it's pretty shocking and not easy to think straight or rationally in the moment. Speaking as someone who's been felt up by strangers when I least expected it.

Since you guys Clearly aren't getting my point, let me use an analogy.

A black guy gets arrested for shoplifting and gets life in prison. I state that the reason the guys sentence is so harsh is because he's black, but someone else says that plenty of white people receive harsh sentences, and they proceed to post a picture of a serial killer...

The fact that you guys don't see how that proves my point is mind boggling.