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A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 2:29 pm
Hey guys, I've been spreading this around and figured it wouldn't hurt to do it here as well. I know this is an atheist forum and with Kitty Ann gone and Ignorant no longer being active, I am the last remaining Catholic. However, if you were ever baptized Catholic or otherwise used to be Catholic and feel compelled to sign, please do so. Or if you have Catholic friends/family, please pass this on to them. For any lurking Catholic who may be reading this site, please sign and share wherever you can.
Thanks all.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 3:31 pm
Unless it's telling him and his curia to commit suicide, like so:
It ain't worth signing. We both know that.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Yeahhhh, no. Whether I want the entire institution of the RCC gone or not, I won't be signing anything with that much churchy verbiage in it, which I don't believe in.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
Four points:
- Although I'm an Atheist, and baptised Lutheran, I did attend a Catholic high school, so I doubt that my opinion will have much weight.
- In all this time, the Church has done little more than throwing rhetoric at the situation, and, even if I hadn't given up hope in authoritarian, tradition-based organisations changing for the better in general long ago, I doubt that it will change anything.
- 43,000 signatures between the two petitions; this is taking some pretty good momentum.
- Petitions are meaningless if the organisations to which they're addressed have any intention of taking them into account; rules are meaningless if their enforcers have no interest in enforcing them.
Sorry, CL.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 7:38 pm
Alternative Letter To The Pope:
Holy Father:
We the undersigned have a programme regarding resolution of the current abuse allegations which have afflicted the Church. We hereby submit if for your consideration:
-Any member of the Church - male, female, ordained or laity - who is accused of sexual misconduct with a minor, or any who abets such conduct or withholds information regarding the accusation, be immediately suspended from all church functions.
-All information and evidence regarding the allegation is to be turned over to the relevant secular authorities for investigation.
-In the event of conviction, the accused shall be punished according to secular law, and the Church shall declare them excommunicate and anathema.
-Also in the event of conviction, the Church shall admit to wrongdoing for allowing the misconduct to occur, and shall abjectly apologize to the victim and his/her family.
In Jesus' name, do SOMETHING.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 7:43 pm
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:Holy Father and Bishops of the United States, we plead for justice for the victims of abuse. We add our voices to those of the bishops who have called for an investigation of the Church hierarchy, both in our own country and in the Vatican. This investigation should be carried out by faithful lay men and women. Further, we encourage other groups to make their voices heard by writing more letters of this nature.
Yeah, nah. Not gonna add my name to a dead letterbox campaign pleading like supplicants for some faithful catholic dipshit to investigate his beloved parish priest.
If you want to plead for justice, plead to your local sex crimes unit, not the clergy.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm
Contactor your local district attorney and urge prosecution under RICO.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm
(September 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Contactor your local district attorney and urge prosecution under RICO.
RICO is a federal statute, and the move from local DA to Federal DA will likely take a while. And even then, this would have to be an international case, and in RICO cases, other countries tend to only cooperate when their own nation's laws are broken. Bear in mind that the Vatican is its own sovereign nation and actually had the cover-up of priestly sexual abuse ENSHRINED IN LAW until fairly recently.
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm
those bastards
corrupt for 2000 years and counting . . . .
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RE: A Letter to Pope Francis (signatures needed)
September 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm
Those letters are the equivalent of a limp dick.
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