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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm
(September 20, 2011 at 12:15 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: (September 20, 2011 at 12:02 pm)Castle Wrote: Not an overall a big fan of Dawkins, other then we share the same blood line. Yet, that was an interesting Dawkins presentation.
After touring this entire planet, I have both inherited and chosen views of different God metaphor and through my own imagination of what spiritual sided is, formed my own identity from all sides.
Dawkins dose demonstrate to me how one can pick or be force, or brainwashed toward only one side, then one become limited thinking and will fight for your ego group side, when I love to share all sides.
People are very social animal like wolves, while there is no such things as a lone wolves or it will die without the pack
Maybe I am somewhat unique because I’m not dead yet
I see man as slightly different from your analogy.
I say we are all in this together, alone.
Not good grammar but it is a truth if understood.
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Yes, like or not , we are in the same boat together, if one jumps ship, how long can he tread water alone. To jump ship would only hinder the development of that person "I'm amazed with so many new ships coming on line that this hasn't been done sooner.
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 20, 2011 at 5:16 pm
(September 20, 2011 at 9:19 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Eh Ok.
What makes you think you do not have a free will?
In fact, there is a quick test I can give you that shows that you do have free will. Within the limits of nature and physics that is. If you will something that goes beyond these then whatever you think free will is, is a delusion.
Care to try my test and prove it to youself?
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Free will does not exist because the universe is determined. No matter how many times the same situation plays on repeat: the conclusion remains the same, for the situation has remained the same.
The universe is one big unsolved math problem  Sure, we can't always tell you today what will happen tomorrow... but someday some guy on a moon in Omega Centauri X will figure it out in a laboratory, and probably with a kitchen plunger 
No, I don't care to try your little test, as the test sounds like a dumb test We are often, and perhaps always, deluded... but we still know we're right ^_^
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 9:46 am
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(September 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm)Castle Wrote: (September 20, 2011 at 12:15 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: (September 20, 2011 at 12:02 pm)Castle Wrote: Not an overall a big fan of Dawkins, other then we share the same blood line. Yet, that was an interesting Dawkins presentation.
After touring this entire planet, I have both inherited and chosen views of different God metaphor and through my own imagination of what spiritual sided is, formed my own identity from all sides.
Dawkins dose demonstrate to me how one can pick or be force, or brainwashed toward only one side, then one become limited thinking and will fight for your ego group side, when I love to share all sides.
People are very social animal like wolves, while there is no such things as a lone wolves or it will die without the pack
Maybe I am somewhat unique because I’m not dead yet
I see man as slightly different from your analogy.
I say we are all in this together, alone.
Not good grammar but it is a truth if understood.
Regards
DL
Yes, like or not , we are in the same boat together, if one jumps ship, how long can he tread water alone. To jump ship would only hinder the development of that person "
I was on your page up to this.
"I'm amazed with so many new ships coming on line that this hasn't been done sooner."
Could you clarify what has not been done sooner.
Regards
DL
(September 20, 2011 at 5:16 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (September 20, 2011 at 9:19 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Eh Ok.
What makes you think you do not have a free will?
In fact, there is a quick test I can give you that shows that you do have free will. Within the limits of nature and physics that is. If you will something that goes beyond these then whatever you think free will is, is a delusion.
Care to try my test and prove it to youself?
Regards
DL
Free will does not exist because the universe is determined. No matter how many times the same situation plays on repeat: the conclusion remains the same, for the situation has remained the same.
The universe is one big unsolved math problem Sure, we can't always tell you today what will happen tomorrow... but someday some guy on a moon in Omega Centauri X will figure it out in a laboratory, and probably with a kitchen plunger
No, I don't care to try your little test, as the test sounds like a dumb test We are often, and perhaps always, deluded... but we still know we're right ^_^
You do not know what the test is yet it is a dumb one.
Good judgment call on what you have no clue about.
Sounds like something a theist would say.
I thought I was in better mental company.
Regards
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm
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(September 21, 2011 at 9:46 am)Greatest I am Wrote: You do not know what the test is yet it is a dumb one.
Yes I do (no matter what it is, you've a forgone conclusion. Read 'loaded'). I might be wrong, but I doubt it highly enough to not even bother taking it You didn't provide the test the moment you said you had it, not subsequent times. This is enough for me to conclude that either the test doesn't exist or you have doubts about it. I, on the other hand, am utterly certain free will does not exist and have no doubts about this whatsoever To draw to a close: the touted 'test' is crap and my understanding of the subject matter is anything but lacking 
Quote:Good judgment call on what you have no clue about.
What's that, Darling? I have no clue about what you tell me I have no clue about. Sounds rather presumptuous to me. How can you stand your own arrogance? 
Quote:Sounds like something a theist would say.
I do not claim to be an atheist... and that I might be is irrelevant. "Drugs" sounds like something you'd buy on the street... but that is also irrelevant to what they are ^_^
I could do with a sandvich.
Quote:I thought I was in better mental company.
Funny thing about good company is it only comes when you yourself are good company.
I'm going back to being jealous of human females now. Das Vedanya ^_^
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 12:51 pm
(September 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Funny thing about good company is it only comes when you yourself are good company.
Occasionally, Sae, you get a hole in one.
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 12:58 pm
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(September 21, 2011 at 12:51 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Occasionally, Sae, you get a hole in one.
And most of the time I'm still putting long after everyone else has moved on to the next hole
Anise: "Colonel... how did you get so strong?"
Jade: "It's simple really... I drink people's blood."
Anise: *shocked silence*
Jade: "It's so hard when people take me seriously."
Okay... maybe I am the only one who finds that double meaning hilarious.
Chalk it up to my bad joke of the day
Mmmmm... cant wait to have a pizza later. I do love pizza
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm
As the elsewhere aforementioned Dr John Ellis would say about me, I'm the mistress of ambiguity. I think Epi would agree. Y'all never know when my double entendres are deliberate or not, and it'll stay that way.
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Saerules is usually right. You just don't pay attention well enough
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I pay far more attention than any of you realize or that I will ever admit.
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RE: Did you choose your God or inherit him?
September 21, 2011 at 1:37 pm
(September 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: As the elsewhere aforementioned Dr John Ellis would say about me, I'm the mistress of ambiguity. I think Epi would agree. Y'all never know when my double entendres are deliberate or not, and it'll stay that way.
Judging from what I know of you here on the forum, I would have to say they are 99% intentional, and the remaining 1% is just your subconscious protruding into the conscious part of your brain.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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