Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners

[The Grand Nudger]

Less immoral than a lava cesspit slide?  Do you really have to ask? 

This notion that..since it allegedly created one super swell choice it just had to create one equally as shitty is more than a little bit absurd.  It could have been the choice between heaven and, you know, a sort of humdrum place doing admin work for the heavenly orgy.  Some jobs at the theme park are better than others.  Could have a heathen contingent of janitors, for example.

No I didn't really have to ask, but I did. Your example is flawed in that the janitors and secretaries are still in the theme park. Let me try a better analogy.
A space ship with eternal gravity is surrounded by eternal antigravity. You can be inside or outside, no in-between because the door is eternally locked after point X in time.

Well..yeah, sure......... and?  The other option..ofc, is to simply keep the heathens out of the themepark....at no point is there any compulsion to build the lava cesspit slide or force people to slide down one or the other.  

Whether hell is figurative or literal is moot. Whether suffering is temporary or eternal is moot. Whether it's a furnace or a parking lot is moot. After said X time you will have to live with the consequences of your choice is the point.

I'm fine with that.  Hell, however, isn't a consequence of any choice of mine.  That was gods call...allegedly, lol.  

The point on the morality of an equally shitty choice isn't absurd. After all things that aren't eternal are gone, You have A or B. If A is perfect and everything good, B should be the opposite. I don't see that as being absurd. I'm not even getting into motives with "not wishing that any should perish". I'm still not convinced the creation of Hell is immoral, but I'm open.

I don't think that you are.  I think that you have a commitment of faith to excusing your god for anything it's done.  The lord of creation is beyond our judgement, after all.

-and that's fine.....

.....but it shouldn't be impossible to realize that this is what it is.  If you're going to do it, then do it, and just be unapologetic about what you've done.  Like a god, and his lava cesspit slide.  

Tada. What's the problem?

[Drich]

Yeah, yeah, whatever.  God throws the other guy into the pit.  But since I'm capable of empathy and rational discernment, this explanation isn't any more compelling than the previous explanation.

empathy= cop out excuse to not make any big decisions in one's life ever, in fear of douching up someone else's vibe..

Rational discernment= to hide behind the decisions of others and point out anything negative as you perceive it.

God throws the other guy into the pit because he can't get to shit together in 75 years of existence he was given, and knows he will crap up eternity if he pissed away 75 years he already got!

[The Grand Nudger]

If you say so...but your description of it is nothing more than a filing cabinet for people who don't blow the divine cock.  : shrugs :

Obviously, a significant portion of gods besties were tired of his shit, and I don't wanna date your boyfriend, so I guess that means we all get to bunk together (for one night or one billion, whatevs).

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

[Drich]

If you say so...but your description of it is nothing more than a filing cabinet for people who don't blow the divine cock.  : shrugs :

Obviously, a significant portion of gods besties were tired of his shit, and I don't wanna date your boyfriend, so I guess that means we all get to bunk together (for one night or one billion, whatevs).  

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

says the man who elected to call himself Gay bologna..

[The Grand Nudger]

It's funny because it's gay!  

[Drich]

can I call you gae/(GAY) for short?

Gae..

if you don't want to feel as if you are being judge then why involve yourself in the conversation?

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So seriously... why gay bologna? taser face taken??? oh, wait that was GotG never mind.. but seriously seriously why gae bologna?

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure, I don't mind.  It's a badass handle..probably wouldn't have taken it if the thought of bigoted shit fer brains like yourself bothered me...huh?

[purplepurpose]

Sure, I don't mind.  It's a badass handle..probably wouldn't have taken it if the thought of bigoted shit fer brains like yourself bothered me...huh?

Thank God I will die and fall asleep permanently and have eternal dream without any dreams in the end. I really didn't expect that "holy" looking believers are so insane.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's the one thing that's true regardless of whether fairies exist.  Their followers are deranged, lol.

[tackattack]

Well..yeah, sure......... and?  The other option..ofc, is to simply keep the heathens out of the themepark....at no point is there any compulsion to build the lava cesspit slide or force people to slide down one or the other.  

That is the only choice, keep heathens out of the themepark. The compulsion is the paradox of no longer having a choice. Creation of place A necessitates there's a non-A place for A to be a place in the first place.

I'm fine with that.  Hell, however, isn't a consequence of any choice of mine.  That was gods call...allegedly, lol.  

Not choosing is still a choice and the onus is on individuals with volition for their choices or lack therof

I don't think that you are.  I think that you have a commitment of faith to excusing your god for anything it's done.  The lord of creation is beyond our judgement, after all.

-and that's fine.....

.....but it shouldn't be impossible to realize that this is what it is.  If you're going to do it, then do it, and just be unapologetic about what you've done.  Like a god, and his lava cesspit slide.  

Tada.  What's the problem?

I really am open. I first have a commitment to myself and flush out any irrational, bigoted or non-congruent thoughts. My faith has to do with evidence and experience. It doesn't excuse anything and I may not understand everything, or subjectively morally agree with everything, it's perfectly fine to question God. The Bible has many examples about it, and I try and do it when necessary, if not often. If you believe Creating Hell is immoral, please cite some reasons that have not been rebutted or answer some rebuttals. I'm still having trouble seeing your side of it and would like some assistance.