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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote: Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism. Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism. - Vladimir Lenin
Again a lying nutcase like Lenin opinion has little to do with anything considering theism can embrace communism as it's a economic theory not a theology as. And in context it's clear he's referring to Communism nature antagonism to alternative power structures it was competing with . Again nothing to do with atheism which is just a disbelief the fact tried to add more to it means nothing .
Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.
Agreed on him being a lying nutcase.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 5:58 pm
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Nope state anti theism the two are not the same nor does one follow from the other and again it was pure politics as the church was a competing power structure with the communist state .
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm
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Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm
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(December 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Amarok Wrote: Again a lying nutcase like Lenin opinion has little to do with anything considering theism can embrace communism as it's a economic theory not a theology as. And in context it's clear he's referring to Communism nature antagonism to alternative power structures it was competing with . Again nothing to do with atheism which is just a disbelief the fact tried to add more to it means nothing .
Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.
Agreed on him being a lying nutcase. Nope it was a power hungry loon using not using any to do with atheism to eliminate his religious rivals .As atheism has no applications . Nor can it be used to justify anything as it does not prescribe nor indorse anything
(December 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.
Do you understand? Nope in his mind Atheism is this vast expansive pile of idea's non of which have anything to do with the actual term. But are convenient to push his false equivocations .
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm
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(December 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm)Amarok Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.
Agreed on him being a lying nutcase. Nope it was a power hungry loon using not using any to do with atheism to eliminate his religious rivals .As atheism has no applications . Nor can it be used to justify anything as it does not prescribe nor indorse anything
(December 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.
Do you understand? Nope in his mind Atheism is this vast expansive pile of idea's non of which have anything to do with the actual term. But are convenient to push his false equivocations .
He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society. He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
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Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922.
Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history. (From Study.com)
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 6:45 pm
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Quote:He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society. He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
He was a power crazed man who used nothing to do with atheism as already explained to defeat his political rivals
Quote:Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922.
Yes I know who he is
Quote:Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.
Yup nothing to do with atheism to eradicate organized religion his rival for power .
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)T0 Th3 M4X. Wrote: He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society. He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
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Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922.
Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history. (From Study.com)
All atheists are many other things as well. Nevertheless, atheism...concerns, ones state of belief..in gods.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)T0 Th3 M4X. Wrote: He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society. He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
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Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922.
Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history. (From Study.com)
All atheists are many other things as well. Nevertheless, atheism...concerns, ones state of belief..in gods.
Do you understand? No Gae apparently if someone is an atheist and holds an opinion that opinion becomes atheism somehow . In Lenin's case .
Wanting a non religious state . Nothing to do with atheism
Believe religion causes suffering . Nothing to do with atheism
Supposed atheist propaganda . Propaganda that must have said I don't believe in god .
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 7:27 pm
I take it Khem's worn out his Ctrl, C and V keys!
I think the troll owes you a new keyboard ...
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
December 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm
(December 18, 2018 at 6:45 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society. He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
He was a power crazed man who used nothing to do with atheism as already explained to defeat his political rivals
Quote:Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922.
Yes I know who he is
Quote:Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.
Yup nothing to do with atheism to eradicate organized religion his rival for power .
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Has everything to do with atheism. Your testimony isn't enough to refute anything. Provide a source or it's just your opinion about what something is. If not, stop wasting my time because you keep running around in circles with information that is well established. If you're wrong once, it's not right when you repeat it multiple times.
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