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Poll: Do u vote for the left wing or right wing government
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Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Amarok Wrote:
Quote: Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism. Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism. - Vladimir Lenin
 Again a lying nutcase like Lenin opinion has little to do with anything considering theism can embrace communism as it's a economic theory not a theology as. And in context it's clear he's referring to Communism nature antagonism to alternative power structures it was competing with  . Again nothing to do with atheism which is just a disbelief the fact tried to add more to it means nothing .

Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.  Wacky

Agreed on him being a lying nutcase.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
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Nope state anti theism the two are not the same nor does one follow from the other and again it was pure politics as the church was a competing power structure with the communist state .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.

Do you understand?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm)Amarok Wrote:  Again a lying nutcase like Lenin opinion has little to do with anything considering theism can embrace communism as it's a economic theory not a theology as. And in context it's clear he's referring to Communism nature antagonism to alternative power structures it was competing with  . Again nothing to do with atheism which is just a disbelief the fact tried to add more to it means nothing .

Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.  Wacky

Agreed on him being a lying nutcase.
Nope it was a power hungry loon using not using any to do with atheism to eliminate his religious rivals .As atheism has no applications . Nor can it be used to justify anything as it does not prescribe nor indorse anything   Wacky

(December 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.

Do you understand?
Nope in his mind Atheism is this vast expansive pile of idea's non of which have anything to do with the actual term. But are convenient to push his false equivocations .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm)Amarok Wrote:
(December 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Nothing to do with atheism except it was an atheist finding an application to atheism so that the end result would be an atheistic state of only atheists.  Wacky

Agreed on him being a lying nutcase.
Nope it was a power hungry loon  using not using any to do with atheism to eliminate his religious rivals .As atheism has no applications . Nor can it  be used to justify anything as it does not  prescribe nor indorse anything   Wacky

(December 18, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism has no applications..because atheism concerns one's state of belief in gods.

Do you understand?
Nope in his mind Atheism is this vast expansive pile of idea's non of which have anything to do with the actual term. But are convenient to push his false equivocations .

He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society.  He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.

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Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922. 

Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.   (From Study.com)

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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
Quote:He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society.  He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
He was a power crazed man who used nothing to do with atheism as already explained to defeat his political rivals 



Quote:Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922. 
Yes I know who he is 


Quote:Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.  
Yup nothing to do with atheism to eradicate organized religion his rival for power .


Thank you for this non refutation
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)T0 Th3 M4X. Wrote: He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society.  He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.

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Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922. 

Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.   (From Study.com)


All atheists are many other things as well.  Nevertheless, atheism...concerns, ones state of belief..in gods.  

Do you understand?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm)T0 Th3 M4X. Wrote: He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society.  He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.

____

Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922. 

Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.   (From Study.com)


All atheists are many other things as well.  Nevertheless, atheism...concerns, ones state of belief..in gods.  

Do you understand?
No Gae apparently if someone is an atheist and holds an opinion that opinion becomes atheism somehow . In Lenin's case .

Wanting a non  religious state . Nothing to do with atheism 

Believe religion causes suffering . Nothing to do with atheism 

Supposed atheist propaganda . Propaganda that must have said I don't believe in god .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
I take it Khem's worn out his Ctrl, C and V keys!

I think the troll owes you a new keyboard ...
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Do u want there to be a God? Any God?
(December 18, 2018 at 6:45 pm)Amarok Wrote:
Quote:He was a power hungry atheist who wanted to control society.  He did it at the cost of human lives by his own testimony using atheism as propaganda.
He was a power crazed man who used nothing to do with atheism as already explained to defeat his political rivals 



Quote:Vladimir Lenin - Vladimir Lenin (April 22, 1870 - January 21, 1924) was the founder of the Russian Communist Party and one of the main leaders of the Russian Revolution. He became the effective first leader of the Soviet Union in 1922. 
Yes I know who he is 


Quote:Vladimir Lenin was an atheist, though he had been baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant. Lenin believed religion to be one of the main sources of human misery and oppression. During his time as leader of the Soviet Union, the conversion of the Soviet population to atheism was one of his main goals. Eradicating organized religion remained one of the main goals of the USSR throughout its history.  
Yup nothing to do with atheism to eradicate organized religion his rival for power .


Thank you for this non refutation

Has everything to do with atheism.  Your testimony isn't enough to refute anything.  Provide a source or it's just your opinion about what something is.  If not, stop wasting my time because you keep running around in circles with information that is well established.  If you're wrong once, it's not right when you repeat it multiple times.
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