Saudi Arabia is falling, It's all over

[WinterHold]

The white house itself turned from "White House" into "white house" with a small W and H.
Trump owns you now. Just keep your voice down so you don't embarrass yourself more.

To what are you referring?

The United States lost a very big chunk of its international weight since Trump came in 2016. Since then, the White House lost its dignity worldwide, and became a hired servant for whoever pays more to Trump.

Take the Kashoggi case as your first example. Trump ordered The White House with all its employees defend a criminal -MBS- and dodge exposing the truth that the CIA knew from day one that MBS is the killer. That defense of course was because Trump was bribed by MBS.

Earlier, he obviously did the same with Russia. But this time he was the briber, and Trump Tower Moscow is the payment he made to Putin. 

It's the first time in history -according to my knowledge- that America turns from a country of "Institutions" to a country ruled by a "single man". In 2 years America fell to the level of a third world country ruled by a dictator.

That's what I meant. The "White House" turned into a small, criminal organization ruled by a dictator who takes bribes and give bribes, defending people like MBS who cut people to pieces in embassies,adjusting the whole power of a superpower to serve his ego and satisfy his mad inflation.

The White House had its history in supporting dictators, but it did it for America's interests; not for the interest of a single man.

That's the biggest fall I ever saw in my life. The quickest, too. The most scary too.
When the interest of whole America is the goal, nukes are very hard to be used.
But when the interest is "Trump's ego", nukes are very easy to use.

I mean he wants to build a whole wall on the borders with Mexico to satisfy his personal interest and escape the investigations. And using the White House for that.
That's a huge fall.

[Brian37]

To what are you referring?

The United States lost a very big chunk of its international weight since Trump came in 2016. Since then, the White House lost its dignity worldwide, and became a hired servant for whoever pays more to Trump.

Take the Kashoggi case as your first example. Trump ordered The White House with all its employees defend a criminal -MBS- and dodge exposing the truth that the CIA knew from day one that MBS is the killer. That defense of course was because Trump was bribed by MBS.

Earlier, he obviously did the same with Russia. But this time he was the briber, and Trump Tower Moscow is the payment he made to Putin. 

It's the first time in history -according to my knowledge- that America turns from a country of "Institutions" to a country ruled by a "single man". In 2 years America fell to the level of a third world country ruled by a dictator.

That's what I meant. The "White House" turned into a small, criminal organization ruled by a dictator who takes bribes and give bribes, defending people like MBS who cut people to pieces in embassies,adjusting the whole power of a superpower to serve his ego and satisfy his mad inflation.

That's the biggest fall I ever saw in my life. The quickest, too.

What are you getting at Atlass?

The reason that asshole is in office is that most people who voted for him didn't live in New York State or or New York City for that matter. NYC had known he was an asshole con artist since the 1970s, but because his father left him with deep pockets he could afford just enough lawyers in that time to  avoid convictions.

Really not that different than Americans here not knowing what you tell us every day about your fucked up rulers. We don't live there.

Dude seriously, I would LOVE nothing more than for Mueller to slap the handcuffs on that fucker, as much as you want the Saudi Prince/ Saudi family in general to get booted. Unfortunately for both you and I neither of us are Presidents or kings or princes. But your powers and my powers do have control of nukes, and Our allies and Saudi Arabia's allies also have nukes. 

I don't want you dead, and I don't think you want me dead, and I wish it were as simple as your powers and my powers listening to us, and not our respective fear mongers.

[WinterHold]

The United States lost a very big chunk of its international weight since Trump came in 2016. Since then, the White House lost its dignity worldwide, and became a hired servant for whoever pays more to Trump.

Take the Kashoggi case as your first example. Trump ordered The White House with all its employees defend a criminal -MBS- and dodge exposing the truth that the CIA knew from day one that MBS is the killer. That defense of course was because Trump was bribed by MBS.

Earlier, he obviously did the same with Russia. But this time he was the briber, and Trump Tower Moscow is the payment he made to Putin. 

It's the first time in history -according to my knowledge- that America turns from a country of "Institutions" to a country ruled by a "single man". In 2 years America fell to the level of a third world country ruled by a dictator.

That's what I meant. The "White House" turned into a small, criminal organization ruled by a dictator who takes bribes and give bribes, defending people like MBS who cut people to pieces in embassies,adjusting the whole power of a superpower to serve his ego and satisfy his mad inflation.

That's the biggest fall I ever saw in my life. The quickest, too.

What are you getting at Atlass?

The reason that asshole is in office is that most people who voted for him didn't live in New York State or or New York City for that matter. NYC had known he was an asshole con artist since the 1970s, but because his father left him with deep pockets he could afford just enough lawyers in that time to  avoid convictions.

Really not that different than Americans here not knowing what you tell us every day about your fucked up rulers. We don't live there.

Dude seriously, I would LOVE nothing more than for Mueller to slap the handcuffs on that fucker, as much as you want the Saudi Prince/ Saudi family in general to get booted. Unfortunately for both you and I neither of us are Presidents or kings or princes. But your powers and my powers do have control of nukes, and Our allies and Saudi Arabia's allies also have nukes. 

I don't want you dead, and I don't think you want me dead, and I wish it were as simple as your powers and my powers listening to us, and not our respective fear mongers.

Reports are the key to get a general idea on the state of a certain thing. i.e if too many reports are saying that "X" is bad; then "X" should be investigated to validate the reports.

I reported against Saudi Arabia's regime; reports from thousands of people -including international media agencies- affirmed my reports also. Turns out people have been reporting this regime since the 80s and the 90s. But for years, despite the voices demanding that the regime in the kingdom get changed or internationally investigated -to affirm the reports-, the majority -if not all- ignored the screams and the calls and the reports.

And the end was very sad: the president of the USA himself displayed reticence on a terrible crime they made inside their embassy in Istanbul.

What I'm getting at Brian, is that our fate as people -Americans; Arabs; Europeans; Mexicans...etc- might not be so different in this era: now I worry about the American torturer & the Saudi torturer. Under Trump; they came to work together.

Without Trump, MBS won't last a single day in power. Exposing Trump is exposing MBS and the Sauds.
Curing the White House is curing me for now.

[Brian37]

What are you getting at Atlass?

The reason that asshole is in office is that most people who voted for him didn't live in New York State or or New York City for that matter. NYC had known he was an asshole con artist since the 1970s, but because his father left him with deep pockets he could afford just enough lawyers in that time to  avoid convictions.

Really not that different than Americans here not knowing what you tell us every day about your fucked up rulers. We don't live there.

Dude seriously, I would LOVE nothing more than for Mueller to slap the handcuffs on that fucker, as much as you want the Saudi Prince/ Saudi family in general to get booted. Unfortunately for both you and I neither of us are Presidents or kings or princes. But your powers and my powers do have control of nukes, and Our allies and Saudi Arabia's allies also have nukes. 

I don't want you dead, and I don't think you want me dead, and I wish it were as simple as your powers and my powers listening to us, and not our respective fear mongers.

Reports are the key to get a general idea on the state of a certain thing. i.e if too many reports are saying that "X" is bad; then "X" should be investigated to validate the reports.

I reported against Saudi Arabia's regime; reports from thousands of people -including international media agencies- affirmed my reports also. Turns out people have been reporting this regime since the 80s and the 90s. But for years, despite the voices demanding that the regime in the kingdom get changed or internationally investigated -to affirm the reports-, the majority -if not all- ignored the screams and the calls and the reports.

And the end was very sad: the president of the USA himself displayed reticence on a terrible crime they made inside their embassy in Istanbul.

What I'm getting at Brian, is that our fate as people -Americans; Arabs; Europeans; Mexicans...etc- might not be so different in this era: now I worry about the American torturer & the Saudi torturer. Under Trump; they came to work together.

Without Trump, MBS won't last a single day in power. Exposing Trump is exposing MBS and the Sauds.
Curing the White House is curing me for now.

I feel you man! I DO!

I would love nothing more than for Trump to be a bad dream as much as you'd love your rulers to be a  bad dream. All we can do respectively on our ends is speak out. 

I would love nothing more than for one day I torture you face to face with an ABBA video and challenge you to eat a bacon cheese burger, and you challenge me to sit outside in 120 degrees for 10 minutes. Between the two of us, I can guess whom you think is the bigger wimp. Hint "ME'. And I doubt you'd find anyone else on this website that would disagree with my logic in this post.

Point is, unfortunately you are stuck where you are at, and I am stuck where I am at, and neither of us have the same power as those whom rule over us. But we do have this communication, and that is our link, and that should allow both of us to find comfort in that we are not alone, and not as different as many would want us to believe.

[WinterHold]

I feel you man! I DO!

I would love nothing more than for Trump to be a bad dream as much as you'd love your rulers to be a  bad dream. All we can do respectively on our ends is speak out. 

I would love nothing more than for one day I torture you face to face with an ABBA video and challenge you to eat a bacon cheese burger, and you challenge me to sit outside in 120 degrees for 10 minutes. Between the two of us, I can guess whom you think is the bigger wimp. Hint "ME'. And I doubt you'd find anyone else on this website that would disagree with my logic in this post.

Point is, unfortunately you are stuck where you are at, and I am stuck where I am at, and neither of us have the same power as those whom rule over us. But we do have this communication, and that is our link, and that should allow both of us to find comfort in that we are not alone, and not as different as many would want us to believe.

Fine; I'll torture you back with a "Mohammed Moneer" song. 

We can't think of these corrupt leaders as a bad dream we want to wake up from only, Brian; we must think of them as the bitter reality that we can resist and change before a disaster comes.

I'm not exageratting when I refer to the threat Trump poses to international peace; this man can -and some experts even predict- that he would do anything to save his skin and serve his interest; and the rumors go that he might get America into a new war with Iran to escape the Mueller investigation.

If that war happens, it can turn -and probably will turn- into a nuclear war. This is more dangerous and more scary than WW2 itself. Imagine a maniac like MBS in alliance with another maniac like Trump, facing an ally of an ex-soviet nuclear state ruled by a third maniac.

The situation is very dangerous and Trump is the center, all this can stop now if he was stopped.
The Mexico wall is just the start.

[Brian37]

I feel you man! I DO!

I would love nothing more than for Trump to be a bad dream as much as you'd love your rulers to be a  bad dream. All we can do respectively on our ends is speak out. 

I would love nothing more than for one day I torture you face to face with an ABBA video and challenge you to eat a bacon cheese burger, and you challenge me to sit outside in 120 degrees for 10 minutes. Between the two of us, I can guess whom you think is the bigger wimp. Hint "ME'. And I doubt you'd find anyone else on this website that would disagree with my logic in this post.

Point is, unfortunately you are stuck where you are at, and I am stuck where I am at, and neither of us have the same power as those whom rule over us. But we do have this communication, and that is our link, and that should allow both of us to find comfort in that we are not alone, and not as different as many would want us to believe.

Fine; I'll torture you back with a "Mohammed Moneer" song. 

We can't think of these corrupt leaders as a bad dream we want to wake up from only, Brian; we must think of them as the bitter reality that we can resist and change before a disaster comes.

I'm not exageratting when I refer to the threat Trump poses to international peace; this man can -and some experts even predict- that he would do anything to save his skin and serve his interest; and the rumors go that he might get America into a new war with Iran to escape the Mueller investigation.

If that war happens, it can turn -and probably will turn- into a nuclear war. This is more dangerous and more scary than WW2 itself. Imagine a maniac like MBS in alliance with another maniac like Trump, facing an ally of an ex-soviet nuclear state ruled by a third maniac.

The situation is very dangerous and Trump is the center, all this can stop now if he was stopped.
The Mexico wall is just the start.

Look man, the asshole just got his ass handed to him by Pelosi. I am not going to claim we are out of the woods yet But we are far better off post 2018 now that the house is in control.

Look, lets agree that only I can deal with my end and only you can deal with your end?


Trump spent years vilifying Mexicans, and yes people from the middle east. The dumbfuck thought that shutting down the government would give him the wall, not against Muslims, but Mexicans, and look where the asshole is at now?

[WinterHold]

Fine; I'll torture you back with a "Mohammed Moneer" song. 

We can't think of these corrupt leaders as a bad dream we want to wake up from only, Brian; we must think of them as the bitter reality that we can resist and change before a disaster comes.

I'm not exageratting when I refer to the threat Trump poses to international peace; this man can -and some experts even predict- that he would do anything to save his skin and serve his interest; and the rumors go that he might get America into a new war with Iran to escape the Mueller investigation.

If that war happens, it can turn -and probably will turn- into a nuclear war. This is more dangerous and more scary than WW2 itself. Imagine a maniac like MBS in alliance with another maniac like Trump, facing an ally of an ex-soviet nuclear state ruled by a third maniac.

The situation is very dangerous and Trump is the center, all this can stop now if he was stopped.
The Mexico wall is just the start.

Look man, the asshole just got his ass handed to him by Pelosi. I am not going to claim we are out of the woods yet But we are far better off post 2018 now that the house is in control.

Look, lets agree that only I can deal with my end and only you can deal with your end?


Trump spent years vilifying Mexicans, and yes people from the middle east. The dumbfuck thought that shutting down the government would give him the wall, not against Muslims, but Mexicans, and look where the asshole is at now?

The whole world is connected today.
If Trump starts a war, all of us will be involved in it. It will be a world war.

Trump is not "playing" with domestic cards only; he uses international cards too like Putin and MBS to win the game.
It's innate capacity to fight him back using international cards too: just like he uses international cards.

If Trump fall, his cards fall with him. If I want to confront MBS, I confront Trump too.

In other words; standing against MBS is standing against Trump. And vise versa.

[Deesse23]

It's the first time in history -according to my knowledge- that America turns from a country of "Institutions" to a country ruled by a "single man"

If a single man ever ruled a country, he could hold a propaganda speech whenever and wherever he wanted. Trump could not. Please come down from your hysteria. Its a common theme with you.