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Homosexuals and Heaven
RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 2:19 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:16 pm)C Rod Wrote: What would you say about sex?
Is there any confines natural or societal that would distinguish sex as an offense or "wrong"?
Does there exist in this world anything pure or any nature that is pure?
Is sex something that matters prominently as a means of my existence(not my conception that was the act of another) or can it be a road never traveled.

What in the fucking fuck?

Care to enlighten me.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 2:38 pm)C Rod Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:19 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:16 pm)C Rod Wrote: What would you say about sex?
Is there any confines natural or societal that would distinguish sex as an offense or "wrong"?
Does there exist in this world anything pure or any nature that is pure?
Is sex something that matters prominently as a means of my existence(not my conception that was the act of another) or can it be a road never traveled.

What in the fucking fuck?

Care to enlighten me.

LOL I could say the same thing Thinking
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 2:36 pm)ElDinero Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:16 pm)C Rod Wrote: What would you say about sex?
Is there any confines natural or societal that would distinguish sex as an offense or "wrong"?
Does there exist in this world anything pure or any nature that is pure?
Is sex something that matters prominently as a means of my existence(not my conception that was the act of another) or can it be a road never traveled.

I don't do riddles mate. Care to actually tell me what your point is and how it relates to the discussion being had?

I was trying to understand from someone in our world the action of sex and the effect it has on the world.
It is not being gay that is wrong but the indulgence and inability to show self control, that is. For a means that is not even "productive". Same for straight people. But if you believe everything is permitted than you get what you want.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
Though you all made good points and cast your frustrations on me, I still maintain my view, which matches the Biblical view of this subject. I would answer some of the posts here, but I believe I have stated enough on the subject and really it's people's shock in my pursuit of an opposing, "out-dated", view that keeps the comments rolling in.

Concerning respect. If I have lost respect in someone's eyes, it was not for the inability to stand up for my beliefs (thankfully), it was for refusing to cave in to the pressure of an opposing view. If respect is based on someone going with the flow, then many of you have it, but if it's based on understanding that other people have different views, that will not always be pleasing, then come to me and I will surely give you respect without a foul word against you, because that is how others in my circle treat me even when we are at odds.

Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions that haven't already been answered.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 2:40 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:38 pm)C Rod Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:19 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:16 pm)C Rod Wrote: What would you say about sex?
Is there any confines natural or societal that would distinguish sex as an offense or "wrong"?
Does there exist in this world anything pure or any nature that is pure?
Is sex something that matters prominently as a means of my existence(not my conception that was the act of another) or can it be a road never traveled.

What in the fucking fuck?

Care to enlighten me.

LOL I could say the same thing Thinking

What do you think of sex, coitus, intercourse, smashing, the beast with two backs, pedophilia, rape, lust?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
I think if it doesn't harm anyone else then why the fuck is it any of your business? If both people consent then I don't give a fuck and nor should anyone else.
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 6:21 am)Jaysyn Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 12:23 am)salty Wrote: The decision to steal from people is immoral, but it does no harm to others. The decision to lie to people is immoral, but it does no harm to others.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen anyone put to electrons. Stealing from someone most certainly causes financial harm. Lying to someone can cause all kinds of awful repercussions, depending on what you are lying about.

How are your mental gymnastics working out?

Define harm.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 12:48 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I never understood why god was supposed to hate the gays so much, but had nothing to say about paedophilia.

It's because god (which was made up by these people) will have the same opinion as his makers. For which they were against same sex for some reason and loved to play with children. There you have it.

God will have the same ideals, for's and against's as those who imagine him.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 2:55 pm)Napoleon Wrote: I think if it doesn't harm anyone else then why the fuck is it any of your business? If both people consent then I don't give a fuck and nor should anyone else.

Is that what you think before you do most things or do you just say that to rationally justify your free, "unwatched" actions?
If you dont give a fuck about the subject then why should i not, tell me about all your sexual experiences or better, go hit up your mom or sister and tell them every detail, you know if you dont give a fuck.
Nothing is harmful to all the entities that wonder aimlessly outside of the direct action but to the entity that knows it all, i would think it harmed that being severely.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
"You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
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RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
(October 4, 2011 at 3:09 pm)C Rod Wrote:
(October 4, 2011 at 2:55 pm)Napoleon Wrote: I think if it doesn't harm anyone else then why the fuck is it any of your business? If both people consent then I don't give a fuck and nor should anyone else.

Is that what you think before you do most things or do you just say that to rationally justify your free, "unwatched" actions?
If you dont give a fuck about the subject then why should i not, tell me about all your sexual experiences or better, go hit up your mom or sister and tell them every detail, you know if you dont give a fuck.
Nothing is harmful to all the entities that wonder aimlessly outside of the direct action but to the entity that knows it all, i would think it harmed that being severely.

What the fuck are you talking about? You're completely, deliberately and disingenuously misinterpreting what I said.

Seriously, what are you talking about hitting up mom's and sister's? Care to explain? This makes no sense whatsoever.

Nowhere did I say that it was okay for bad things to happen as long as no one sees it. Stop making up your own crap and focus on what I actually said. Douche.
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