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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 11:21 am
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(February 2, 2019 at 9:37 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: He never got the job of a messiah done.
The link you posted is biased, ignorant and a lie.
He conquered sin when He was here for man. He atoned for sin. He definitely got the job done when He was here. His message is followed by church members the world over still today.
He did not meet the jews definition of the messiah. There were some who came closer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants
By the way the jewish and Christian definition of messiah are different.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 3:03 pm
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: I try really hard to be an honest person so that is not true what you say about me. You are about to demonstrate your dishonesty.
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am not brainwashed either. Lie #1. Didn't take long.
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: I do not advocate slavery. Then you are against the bible.
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: I know the Lord allowed slavery and had rules for it but it existed in those times and He just added regulation to it. Regulations? Regulations like that it is OK to entrap your slaves?
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: It was to be led by righteous leaders that would take care of their slaves, not abuse them. Righteous? So it's OK to beat your slaves as much as you like up to the point of death?
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: So I am against slavery. Then reject your magic book.
This is the thing about you religious types. You are against slavery. The bible is not. Rather than condemn the evil tome, you invent stupid excuses for why it's OK out of some twisted pretzel logic. It is this fundamental principle of the cover-up that gave rise to the pedo scandals. You are doing the exact same thing because your religion makes you do it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 3:27 pm
(February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (January 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's the charlatans who monetize god that love a gullible cretin. God itself can't be reached for comment on the matter.
Hey Gae. Could you ever be a deist at least? Just curious. Also, what if common ancestry proves not to be true. It is a debated topic. Could you ever accept Christianity? If so, what would it take. Try to be serious on this one. I am curious.
(January 31, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: So you then also accept his wife, (of the Holy Scriptures) ?
No wife. Three masculine persons make up the Godhead.
(January 31, 2019 at 5:16 pm)Nomad Wrote: And also that he's a minor war god of the Canaanite pantheon (also from the holy scriptures, specifically genesis 1).
What do you mean by that? Can you elaborate?
(February 1, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
Uhm.... actually CDF47?
It's totally because Myer and co went the way they did (Trying to push their agenda through schools and NOT peer reveiw) is why people have such distaste.
Also..... I'm pretty sure science, as a whole, has moved on quite a ways since Charles published his book.
Though, yes, the basic scientific method is still largely the same.
Cheers.
Dr. Meyer was never a fan of the trial from my understanding. I don't think he liked the idea to begin with of pushing this into public schools the way they went about it. I think he has alternative plans for education on the subject.
Cheers man!
Per Genesis 1 the god el and his subordinates, the elohim of which yhwh was one, created the world. Even in the modern, expunged, versions the book treats the creation as a collective activity often enough to get the original meaning.
Are you telling me that yoi are a good and knowledgeable christian while not even knowing basic facts of your holy book? Not surprising really.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 5:20 pm
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There is another important revealing reference to Yahweh being one of the sons of El Elyon.
In Deuteronomy 32:8, it says that the most high god, (NOT Yahweh), apportioned out the nations to the various gods, and Israel got Yahweh.
This verse has some REALLY bungled translations, but its original is quite shocking. (It's a POEM BTW) ... something most editions don't even make obvious.
בְּהַנְחֵל עֶלְיוֹן גּוֹיִם בְּהַפְרִידֹו בְּנֵי אָדָם
יַצֵּב גְּבֻלֹת עַמִּים לְמִסְפַּר בְּנֵי שֹׁר־אֵל
וַיְהִי חֵלֶק יהוה עַמֹּו יַעֲקֹב חֶבֶל נַחֲלָתֹו
When Elyon gave the nations an inheritance,
when he divided humankind,
he set the bounds of the peoples
according to the number of Bull El’s children,
and Yahweh’s portion was his people,
Jacob, the lot of his inheritance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 2, 2019 at 11:59 pm
(February 2, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: He conquered sin when He was here for man. He atoned for sin. He definitely got the job done when He was here. His message is followed by church members the world over still today.
Who cares? Good for him....I guess? People still do fucked up shit. If it weren't for christer belief...maybe they'd own it. Talk about a shit god that doesn't matter.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 3, 2019 at 1:11 am
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Quote:He definitely got the job done when He was here.
Atonement for sin was never the job of a messiah. Christians cooked that up when the end-times did not arrive as both Jesus and Paul (mistakenly) thought was immanent.
If he "conquered sin" then why is it the world is EXACTLY the same as before he (supposedly) did that.
Buncha pious sentimental drivel, signifying nothing.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 3, 2019 at 12:54 pm
If secular laws were like religious dogma.
Police -"Freeze, we caught you red handed killing that fellow."
Person-"Yes, I did it. I also believe in Zeus."
Police -"In that case, here's a ticket to a two week cruise vacation in the Mediterranean"
Person -"Thanks"
Police-"Praise Zeus"
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm
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Quote:CDF47 Wrote: [url=https://atheistforums.org/post-1882054.html#pid1882054][/url]I know the Lord allowed slavery and had rules for it but it existed in those times and He just added regulation to it.
Pity he never got round to putting in a regulation along the lines of, 'Thou shalt not own people. Pots, urns and shovels thou mayest own, but not people. Get it? Owning people is not allowed.'
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 3, 2019 at 1:44 pm
(February 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:CDF47 Wrote: [url=https://atheistforums.org/post-1882054.html#pid1882054][/url]I know the Lord allowed slavery and had rules for it but it existed in those times and He just added regulation to it.
Pity he never got round to putting in a regulation along the lines of, 'Thou shalt not own people. Pots, urns and shovels thou mayest own, but not people. Get it? Owning people is not allowed.'
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
February 3, 2019 at 2:14 pm
It's true, there is footage
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