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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:02 pm
(February 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 13, 2019 at 4:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yea, sorry OLB, but plenty of nutjobs stockpile firearms and end up going postal on fac himily or co workers or society. The Vegas Hotel shooter had several himself. Money or lack of, nor class have anything to do with why a disturbed person goes postal.
Disturbed people that murder family, or neighbors, or co workers, or go into churches, or hotels or schools or bars, all have the same thing in common, access to firearms they shouldn't have had.
And I' m sure you could find correlation of murdering sickos to nutjobs who hide in their mother's basement writing bad poetry.
You got a point?
Give Brian the bad news that most mass shooters haven't stockpiled a bunch of guns, and that the majority of them come from single parent homes, and he will probably throw a temper tantrum. Facts and Brian don't coexist very well.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:04 pm
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(February 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 13, 2019 at 4:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yea, sorry OLB, but plenty of nutjobs stockpile firearms and end up going postal on fac himily or co workers or society. The Vegas Hotel shooter had several himself. Money or lack of, nor class have anything to do with why a disturbed person goes postal.
Disturbed people that murder family, or neighbors, or co workers, or go into churches, or hotels or schools or bars, all have the same thing in common, access to firearms they shouldn't have had.
And I' m sure you could find correlation of murdering sickos to nutjobs who hide in their mother's basement writing bad poetry.
You got a point?
Separate subject.
1. My mother died in 2017, but thanks for shitting on her. And I watched her take her last breath.
2. Unless I am living under your roof, and you are the primary bread winner, guess what, YOU HAVE NO SAY.
3. I never stole from her or drained her bank account. So again, fuck you, none of your fucking business.
4. FYI, "Your mother's basement" is an argument I have seen both right AND LEFT use, and is nothing more than an filler when someone does not have a point to make. I hate it when my side uses it too.
My point has been for decades, that access matters, and as long as America is held hostage by one industry and one lobby, we will continually have the level of firearm violence no other wealthy first world ally has like we do. Europe Canada, Australia and Japan, ALL ALLOW firearm ownership, despite what anyone might sell you, THEY DO. What they don't have, that we do here, is an unhealthy obsession.
Now, if you find the level of firearm violence in America acceptable, you are either delusional, disturbed or both. If you don't find the level of firearm violence acceptable, then offer solutions, but don't scream at me when you say, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands" and shit your pants when I agree.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Mass shooters don't have to stockpile guns. Some else did that for them, legally. They just select whichever one fits their mood.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:14 pm
(February 13, 2019 at 5:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Mass shooters don't have to stockpile guns. Some else did that for them, legally. They just select whichever one fits their mood.
The majority of firearm deaths are suicides. Second would be domestic violence, or neighbor on neighbor violence, third would be a kid getting a hold of the parents gun. Mass shootings do not constitute the majority of injuries or deaths. But the fact that we have exponentially far more mass shootings than our closest allies, says alot about how access plays a roll in all kinds of injuries and deaths.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:20 pm
(February 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 13, 2019 at 4:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yea, sorry OLB, but plenty of nutjobs stockpile firearms and end up going postal on fac himily or co workers or society. The Vegas Hotel shooter had several himself. Money or lack of, nor class have anything to do with why a disturbed person goes postal.
Disturbed people that murder family, or neighbors, or co workers, or go into churches, or hotels or schools or bars, all have the same thing in common, access to firearms they shouldn't have had.
And I' m sure you could find correlation of murdering sickos to nutjobs who hide in their mother's basement writing bad poetry.
You got a point?
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:24 pm
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Big fucking deal.
I gotta dead mother too. And I watched her die too..
I' ll raise you 4 dead Aunts, 8 dead Uncles, 4 dead grandparents and a dog that I had to do an Old Yeller" on.....
You want sympathy?
Look in the dictionary.
It' s in between " shit" and "syphils".....
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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(February 13, 2019 at 5:24 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Big fucking deal.
I gotta dead mother too. And I watched her die too..
I' ll raise you 4 dead Aunts, 8 dead Uncles, 4 dead grandparents and a dog that I had to do an Old Yeller" on.....
You want sympathy?
Look in the dictionary.
It' s in between " shit" and "syphils".....
Yea, you survived Warsaw Poland, got it. Everyone in your family went to the concentration camps but you.
Not asking for your sympathy asshole. You brought up my mother, what the fuck did you expect?
The issue is not who lives where, or who pay's whose bills. The issue is firearm violence in America. And I don't like that argument when my side pulls it either.
So again, if you find the volume of firearm violence acceptable, you are delusional, disturbed or both. If you don't find the level of firearm violence acceptable, then pony up with solutions. But you don't get to bitch when you RIGHTFULLY SAY, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands." Then bitch when I agree with you.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 5:39 pm
(February 13, 2019 at 5:24 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Big fucking deal.
I gotta dead mother too. And I watched her die too..
I' ll raise you 4 dead Aunts, 8 dead Uncles, 4 dead grandparents and a dog that I had to do an Old Yeller" on.....
You want sympathy?
Look in the dictionary.
It' s in between " shit" and "syphils"..... Man, you've seen Avengers: Infinity War, haven't you.
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 6:33 pm
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(February 13, 2019 at 8:48 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I think so.
https://www.npr.org/2017/03/31/522036660...s-election
I used to work in gun sales. When pro- gun people see the ( D )s " getting into power" - they buy more guns and ammo.
Evidence? Ammo shortages - like the one that ended a year or so ago - only happen during periods where the ( D )s have the appearance of having a chance of passing anti- gun legislation. Just before, and during the Clinton administration - I watched guns and ammo getting sold at a frenzied pace. I would say this is the period where private ownership of military looking guns soared. They simply weren't that popular before the 1990' s.
So?
I guess if you' re against " flooding the market with guns" - the best thing you can do is a straight ticket vote - for the ( R )s.
Sure. One of the local gun shops here paid tribute to Obama in a string of adds run in late 2016/early 2017, for having given them several of the best sales years in their history.
(February 13, 2019 at 9:26 am)onlinebiker Wrote: And here we go again - overlook the evidence - vote partisan.
Did you read the attached story?
Gun sales are DOWN since Trump got elected.
Isn't that what you want? LESS GUN SALES??
No - what you want is to ignore the unintended consequences of your actions - and keep voting ( D ).
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What I'd like to see is the CDC and the NIH being allowed to do some real research on gun violence, without Congress threatening to cut off their funding.
(February 13, 2019 at 10:58 am)Divinity Wrote: Nah, we just need a Democrat who's willing to use a national emergency to ban guns and force confiscation. Woks for me.
Then we can lock up the people who refuse to give their guns away. Thanks for the idea!
That would just instigate armed conflict in the streets.
You think people who want to keep their guns wouldn't shoot at the people they thought were coming to take them away?
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RE: Do ( D )s sell more guns than ( R )s?
February 13, 2019 at 6:56 pm
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Depends on who was coming.
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