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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm
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(February 20, 2019 at 9:08 pm)Yonadav Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Neat trick, so Hillary had a direct effect long before she was even the wife of a Governor?
You do know "Back To The Future" is just a movie?
I know that you aren't this dumb. The neoliberal Dems took over the party in the wake of the 1972 defeat of McGovern. That's the wing of the party that the Clintons came to dominate.
I have cut you slack for days now, but this is just certifiable bat shit insane bullshit.
All you are arguing 40 plus years after what you claim is the fact, which has NOTHING to do with the 1970s, is that you don't like objection today.
The Bush's had ancestors long before any of them became president too.
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 9:14 pm
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(February 20, 2019 at 10:39 am)Brian37 Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am)DLJ Wrote: US politics is plagued with weak semantics.
No wonder their media finds it so easy to manipulate muddled minds.
So atheists all agree on all issues all the time?
No? So why would "liberal" mean they are sheep either?
"Atheist" is a general term meaning "off", but that is all we have in common. Outside that we do not agree on politics or economics or religion 100% of the time.
Liberals are no different. In general we agree in protecting pluralism and worker stability. But that does not mean we all agree on how to get to those goals.
What’s your definition of ‘definition’?
I asked for a definition not a creed.
I’ll help you out...
Atheist (or ism) has two definitions dependent on whether the root word is taken as atheos or theos. Therefore it’s either:
- belief (not god) or
- (belief not) god.
Liberal stems from liber (free) but some will read that as ‘freedom from’ and others sway towards ‘freedom to’.
Either way the various propaganda machines can spin positives and negatives...
Freedom from oppression
Freedom to express
Free to choose
Free to plunder
Free from laws.
Etc...
The British liberal is closer to the US libertarian so again...
What’s your definition of liberal.
Cheers.
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 9:20 pm
(February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm)Yonadav Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Uh, your men blew it in 1972. Never again seems to have crystallized into immutable reality, not merely a spiteful resolve.
Who cares what you think? You have the political IQ of a potato and you would have voted for Trump if he had been a Democrat. Or Adolf Hitler, as long as he's a Dem.
If Hitler invaded hell, I will make a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons,
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm
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Brian37Let me clue you in. If Bernie does not get the nomination, he will do what he did the last time, and support the nominee. Or are you going to lie to me and claim he did not support Hillary?
the only reason he supported Hillary is because he knew trump would be worse.
you make it sound like the nominee is OWED you're vote, that is bullshit of the highest order. They have to convince you through their policy positions and voting record on why they deserve you're vote.
Hillary didn't deserve the nomination since the DNC rigged the primary and dems who took corporate money were against Bernie along with the mainstream media.
honestly just list Hilalry's policy positions ALL OF THEM or did you vote for her solely because she was the nominee?
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 11:23 pm
(February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm)Cepheus Ace Wrote: Brian37Let me clue you in. If Bernie does not get the nomination, he will do what he did the last time, and support the nominee. Or are you going to lie to me and claim he did not support Hillary?
the only reason he supported Hillary is because he knew trump would be worse.
you make it sound like the nominee is OWED you're vote, that is bullshit of the highest order. They have to convince you through their policy positions and voting record on why they deserve you're vote.
Hillary didn't deserve the nomination since the DNC rigged the primary and dems who took corporate money were against Bernie along with the mainstream media.
honestly just list Hilalry's policy positions ALL OF THEM or did you vote for her solely because she was the nominee?
Didn't Bernie say in a 2016 debate that Hillary at her worst was better than any of the Republican candidates (at the time) at their best?
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 11:59 pm
(February 20, 2019 at 11:23 pm)Grandizer Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 11:20 pm)Cepheus Ace Wrote: Brian37Let me clue you in. If Bernie does not get the nomination, he will do what he did the last time, and support the nominee. Or are you going to lie to me and claim he did not support Hillary?
the only reason he supported Hillary is because he knew trump would be worse.
you make it sound like the nominee is OWED you're vote, that is bullshit of the highest order. They have to convince you through their policy positions and voting record on why they deserve you're vote.
Hillary didn't deserve the nomination since the DNC rigged the primary and dems who took corporate money were against Bernie along with the mainstream media.
honestly just list Hilalry's policy positions ALL OF THEM or did you vote for her solely because she was the nominee?
Didn't Bernie say in a 2016 debate that Hillary at her worst was better than any of the Republican candidates (at the time) at their best?
oh he did while true is only a reason not to vote for trump but thats not a reason to vote for Hillary, by that logic you could justify any shitty candidate because the alternative is worse.
the better option would've been getting rid of trump and Hillary and starting again with different candidates
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RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 21, 2019 at 7:59 am
(February 20, 2019 at 11:19 am)Yonadav Wrote: (February 20, 2019 at 10:34 am)DLJ Wrote: US politics is plagued with weak semantics.
No wonder their media finds it so easy to manipulate muddled minds.
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Tell me about it. I have to live here. Over in the thread about differences between right and left, some of the guys described the left using memes based in right of center talking points against the left as if those talking points described the left. When I laughed at that, one of them doubled down on their confusion by calling me a centrist. I keep running into these very, very confused people who confuse my obviously very, very far left political views with (inexplicably) conservative Republican views. Our 'left' has become inundated with people who are provisionally socially liberal, but fervently support Reagan style economic policies that they deny are Reaganomics.
...
Dude! Don’t get me started on the USian’s understanding of left vs. right!
I have whole PowerPoint presentations on that.
It’s part of my stand-up routine.
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